Too bad you are not a gentleman Rob. You would see that
there is more to the argument that one side. I believe that
we should take reasonable measures to protect the environment
I just don't agree with all the BS associated with your liberal
views on how it is caused.


Study the Little Ice Age and consider all the ramifications.
Ask also what was the period just before the Little Ice Age like?
Warm eh? Very warm? With bountiful crops? How could that be?




Like I said, SAD. There is nothing in our geological history that
comes close to the changes we are seeing now. Did you even read the
Oregon Petition. They mostly agree on global warming. The concensus is
in question, but the VAST MAJORITY of scientists and scientific
institutions know what's happening because the last 3 years of data is
beyond question. Of course some of those very same doubting scientists
claimed that the Alaskan shelf would not melt in 100 years. Gee
wiz...a big unk of it went in 4 years.
Only a simpleton applies polictical parties and agenda's to an obvious
problem like this. Meanwhile, doesn't toss you a clue when a petition
is signed and the names are not questioned? You couldn't have done
more than a minutes worth of googling or you might have discovered
that. But of course, believing in some sort of "liberal ,movement"
that will injure our dumb auto builders is all you really care about.
Fortunately there are many people like me who can actually read and
comprehend and understand a geological time table. It's so insane.
Most scientists agreed on those tables and data...until they indicated
we were in an unatural man made phase of atmospheric disturbance. So
what kind of person is will to rework accepted truths to suit a
political agenda? What kind of person dismisses truth because he
doesn't care for the messengers? History is repleat with these
lowlifes and Bart is of the same cloth.
Global warming is real, folks. Virtually every scientific organization
agrees on that. They also agree that nothing in the known geological
timetable hints at such an abrubt change, except for those dealt by
planetary impacts. So what's left? 100 years of pouring soot into our
air, chemstry into the oceans and grime on the ice. The Earth is big,
but it's not immune to such an attack and we're seeing that now.
The bottom line is that we'll see the truth very soon. But just like
Iraq, there will always be those who refuse to see the obvious.

There were no WMD's, Bart.
Bin Laden is still free.
We still have meager forces in Iraq, and that was the case even when there was support for the war. Why?
Bush based his war on photos shown on TV that were between 8-12 years old, though more recent pics existed to refute the evidence.
There is video of Bush, Condoliza and so on laughing at the idea of Iraq as a US threat, taken after 9/11.
Most scientists agree that global warming is real and that it's not part of a natural cycle. A few small groups that were on the fence have since come to agree on the issue including 1/3 of those from the Oregon Petition who actually had credentials.
You will never wake up because you view the world as liberals/republicans/democrats and so on. You don't even know that those words are used to manipulate you and have long since lost their true meanings. That's why any true republican, who knows what the party stands for, is against Bush, who has virtually NO republican values. But there are always a dopey group of Americans willing to buy anything if it says MADE IN THE USA stamped on the box.

I can't help you, Bart. Probably no one can. If the shelfs melt and
sea levels kill millions, who will you blame? Clinton? The Liberals?
Naturally all efforts will go into trying to afix blame rather than
dealing with the problem head on, and you'll be top of the class.
Finally, there is a big difference between acting like a gentleman and
actually being one. You have no idea what that difference is since you
continue to spout uneducated and unsolicted politican and psuedo
scientic nonsense here.
And that's why I'm truly a gentleman, Bart. That's why I have
everything you don't. I have a beautiful wife and son....great
friends, a new home and lakefront land, two new cars, a nice boat that
actually sailed today and isn't being refit to the end of time and so
on.
And all you have is a bitterness towards imaginary liberals who are
trying to save the spotted Owl and bring down General Motors. The
problem is not the Owl, Bart. It's Americans like you who have no
vision or sense of world responsibility. Greedy Americans who not only
have a international "us or them" mentality, but one for their fellow
Americans as well.
Bart, you're the absolute bottom filth of the worst imaginable type of
American. Even a serial killer has insanity in his defense. You have
only ingnorance fueled by bigotry and conservative mania.
And that's no defense at all.

Shame on you.



RB
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