"katy" wrote in message
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Bob Crantz wrote:
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Pah...most people that teach Earth Science have majors in otehr firlds
related to the study such as Geology, Paleontology (Mr. Sail's has a BS
in that with an earth scienceandphysics minors)..
So most of the people teaching "earth science" have specialized in a
narrow field of earth science or something else and are teaching the
broader field of "earth science" in high schools. How does this
contradict anything I've said?
I'll say it again: A degree program in earth science is light on science.
SUNY has shown only two courses each of physics, chemistry and math with
biology optional to get a BS in Earth Science. Real colleges such as MIT,
Colorado School of Mines (the world's foremeost college on mineral
engineering) and others do not even offer a BS in Earth Science.
.and you're quoting for a wiki???bwahahahahaa...negates any type of point
you were trying to make...you don't know what you're talking about...
What in that Wiki quote is incorrect? Could you be so kind to point it
out? I could use the same tactic as you and say you don't have any
degrees in science and therefore you are not credible. But since we're
discussing the facts and issues and how they stand on their own, rather
than who said them or the source, I'd love to learn what was incorrect in
the Wiki quote. Please tell.
It gets even better he
BA in Earth Science:
http://www.earth.uni.edu/es_nonteach.html
They even have an interpretive trail guide specialty! So they all don't
go on to the classroom, some go on to clean the pit toilets.
I guess the BA in Earth Science is even lighter on science and math.
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos050.htm
"A bachelor's degree is adequate for a few entry-level positions"
http://www.earthscienceworld.org/car.../faqs.html#2.3
2.3 How much education do I need? Can I get a job with a bachelor's
degree?
"Usually a master's degree is required for major professional entry-level
positions. As in any profession, the best jobs go to the best qualified
applicants. Students contemplating a professional career in the
geosciences should consider getting an advanced degree. A Ph.D. is needed
for advancement in college teaching and in most higher-level research
positions."
Show me the physics! Show me the math! Show me the chemistry! Show me the
biology!
http://www.ucmo.edu/majors/4yearplan.cfm?ftd=45
Moooo-hoooo-hooo-haaaa-haaaa!!!!!!!!!!
It's no wonder the issue of "Global Warming" is such a circus.
Ya know...you're beginning to sound like a psycjopath pendant...we alrady
know that there is no one on the face of the earth who knows more or has
experinced mroe than you..so I'll bow out of this discussion now since
it's obvious thjat the rest of us lowly creatures can
't compete with your opinions... you were much nicer when you were on
meds...
Very little of my opinion has been introduced in this entire thread.
Everything I said was backed up with fact, references to several
universities and the federal gov't. My thesis is that Earth Science majors
are light on science. I supported that argument with curricula and
requirements for employment. I did not introduce the "bwahahaa" into to
thread or attack any sources. I just kept building my case on fact.
As far as me knowing more than everyone else on the face of the earth or
having more experience, how could you possibly draw that conclusion based
upon what I have said about Earth Science majors? Dave was the one to
originally assert what I maintained and showed to a good degree with
external references. Now does he know more than everyone else too? Is he so
experienced?
I never claimed to have any special knowledge in this discussion nor did I
engage in any personal attacks or snide comments ( the pit toilet cleaning
is a real duty of the job position mentioned). However, further up in this
thread one finds:
On Tue, 22 May 2007 11:20:33 -0400, katy said:
Sorry tyour school was so deficient.
Hmm. From your description, it sounds like some kind of science for
dummies--the ones who couldn't hack chemistry or physics.
It's a freshman course...before you take Bilology, Chemistry and Ohysics
and is required subject in many states....you ahve a problem with learning
about the earth? Is it any more or less valid than taking Biology? As a
sailor, I am very surprised at your remarks. One of the labs the kids like
most is using the wave table to generate different wave patterns to see the
erosion efect and effect on floating bodies ( as in matter)...SO where did
you learn about karst topography? Or volcanixc systems or tectonic plates?
In 9thgrade what did you know about earthquakes or their origins or the
epochs of the earth? From your attitude, not much."
Need I say more?
If your feelings are hurt, I truly apologize. My point was simply to offer
up that "Earth Scientists" may have less science education than engineers,
computer engineers and other "non-science" majors. I believe it is important
for others to know this because these very "Scientists" are
predicting/echoing global warming/cooling/warming/cooling/disaster/doom and
are affecting the very lives, livelihoods, educations, social structure
based solely upon their credential as "Scientist".
Amen!
BC