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On May 3, 10:41 am, the_bmac wrote:





Don W wrote:
the_bmac wrote:
Don W wrote:

Why allow yourself to be insulted en Francais by theFrench, when the
English are mostly polite and friendly? And if they aren't, you can
at least understand their insults '-)

my experience in France was that it was mostly loudAmericanswho used
the "maybe if I speak English really loudly he'll understand" method
of communicating with theFrench-who not surprisingly speakFrench-
were the ones getting insulted

(Shrug) Maybe. I have had good experiences inFrenchterritories (F.P.
& Martinique).

However, I've heard second handstoriesabout the rudeness of theFrench
waitersto _all_ customers, and not just theAmericansand Brits. I
have not experienced this myself. Perhapssomeone who has been to
Paris
recently would care to comment.

Well if all you are going to judge by is Paris, then you do need to
understand the mindset of many
Parisians. Unlike New Yorkers, Londoners -or God help them, Torontoids-
who _think_ they're living in
the centre of the known universe, Parisians _know_ they are living in
the
centre of the known
universe. Parisians refer to all living outside of "L'île de France" as
"provincials", quaint rustic
bumpkins who are not to be taken seriously. Americansare frequently
regarded as crass, bourgeois,
hobbled by puritanical mores and completely devoid of any appreciation
for
art, culture and most
particularly food.
PerhapsyourhearsaystoriesaboutFrenchwaiterscomefro mfellowAmericanswho
are accustomed to treating wait-staff like second class citizens.
Waiter
is a respected occupation in
France. They know their business and expect their customers to know
about
food, etiquette etc.
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Yelp... they are uppty snobs for sure and it's a game they play in a
effort to feel important, sorta like the McDonalds cashier with an
attitude problem.

However as BigMac pointed out, throw a few local phrases at them,
accept the fact that they call the shots, and you can get the sub-
standard level of service the locals are willing to endure. If you go
in shouting "Garson" expect to be ignored.

Why anyone wants to spend anytime in a garbage laiden **** hole like
Parie is beyond me.

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Hey, if rude assholes and lots-o-garbage covered streets is your thing
go for it.
Been there...

My thing?? France has 75 mill. tourists visiting each year, and the number
is increasing. Assuming you are from US, you have 45 mill. tourists a year
and this figure has been decreasing. There must be something about France
you have missed.