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Short Wave Sportfishing

On 2 May 2007 15:46:30 -0700, wrote:

On May 2, 4:39 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2007 16:25:02 -0400, Harry Krause

wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2007 15:23:04 -0400, Charlie Morgan
wrote:

On Wed, 02 May 2007 19:11:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 02 May 2007 14:46:05 -0400, Charlie Morgan
wrote:

On Wed, 02 May 2007 18:33:34 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 02 May 2007 13:09:19 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 02 May 2007 16:11:14 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Give me an example of "hate speech".
Inciting to riot.
Hmmmm....

Inciting to riot: "Inciting a riot applies to a person who organizes,
encourages, or participates in a riot.
I think we should kill all the __________. They shouldn't be allowed
to breathe our air!

That's hate speech that could end up encouraging others to riot or
commit criminal acts that would qualify as "Hate Crimes".
No - that's inciting to riot. Has nothing to do with "hate speech".

They are two seperate concepts.
Depends on how you fill in that obvious BLANK space I included. Insert
a racial slur or the name of a specific "protected class", and it
becomes both inciting to riot, AND hate speech

I understand what you are saying, but they are different.

For instance:

If I called a group of people "vegetarian tree hugging salad suckers"
and they are incensed enough to riot, that's inciting a riot.

If I say the same thing and they don't riot, is that still hate
speech?

If you are low-life Texas redneck, and you get up in front of a larger
group of same and say, "let's catch us one of those damned n*****s,
chain him to the back of the pick-up and drag him to death," you'd
likely be found guilty of hate speech.

Ok - why? If the statement was offered and resulted in nothing other
than some cheering and shouting, who did it hurt as a result?

Consider:

If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back
and come over to my house.

Would that be considered hate speech?

And murder.

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I can't define hate speech, but I know it when I hear it, hey if it's
good enough for a senator...

Hmmmm - not good enough I'm afraid.

Unless of course, there is no such thing as hate speech. :)