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Jim wrote:
At least most of it -- many parts blacked out (Requires

Acrobat)



http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...itary_0604.pdf




Did you happen to catch much of the AG's testimony? He so

typifies
the
mindlessness of Bush. Neither of them really give a crap about

what
happens to US soldiers as a result of their policies.

I think the more accurate analysis is that both of them realize

that
our
abiding by the rules of law will have no effect on how the other

side
treats
our POW's.

Tell me this...
What good did our signature do on the articles of the Geneva
Convention
when
our soldiers and/or citizens in Somalia, Fallujah, or elsewhere

were
captured? Not one damned bit of good.

We need to amend our policy. If the enemy is a signatory to the
articles
of
the Geneva Convention, then their POW's will be treated

according
to
the
rules of war. If not, then we must assume that they will not

show
retraint
with our troops if captured...and we should return the favor in

kind.

But I believe the Geneva Convention applies to soldiers, i.e those

in
uniform,. not those that act as terrosits dressing in civilian

clothes
and
hiding in civilian buildings.

Get used to it. This is the nature of modern warfare, and it's not

going
to
change anytime soon. It began in WWII, continued in Vietnam, and

it's
here
to stay.

Then the articles of the Geneva Convention no longer apply. Thanks

for
pointing that out, Doug!

"Combatants who deliberately violate the rules about maintaining a

clear
separation between combatant and noncombatant groups - and thus

endanger
the
civilian population - are no longer protected by the Geneva

Convention."

http://www.genevaconventions.org/



So, how do the 'contractors' we have over in Iraq fall into this, are

they
not also 'unlawful' combatants?..


If they're armed, they're not lawful combatants.



Well, they ARE armed, and our government has huge contracts with the
companies which provide these mercanaries. I don't necessarily have a
problem with that, but don't claim that "unlawful combatants" come only from
evil sources, OK?