* Joe wrote, On 4/17/2007 11:23 PM:
On Apr 17, 10:19 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:52:31 -0600, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

http://69.55.11.240/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=184241
Despite the sad death, It's heartening to see that gun control is
working in Japan and most other nations that take it seriouslyhttp://www.guncite.com/cnngunde.html

Japan, where very few people own guns, averages 124 gun-related
attacks a year, and less than 1 percent end in death. Police often
raid the homes of those suspected of having weapons.
The study found that gun-related deaths were five to six times
higher in the Americas than in Europe or Australia and New Zealand and
95 times higher than in Asia.
Here are gun-related deaths per 100,000 people in the world's 36
richest countries in 1994: United States 14.24; Brazil 12.95; Mexico
12.69; Estonia 12.26; Argentina 8.93; Northern Ireland 6.63; Finland
6.46; Switzerland 5.31; France 5.15; Canada 4.31; Norway 3.82; Austria
3.70; Portugal 3.20; Israel 2.91; Belgium 2.90; Australia 2.65;
Slovenia 2.60; Italy 2.44; New Zealand 2.38; Denmark 2.09; Sweden
1.92; Kuwait 1.84; Greece 1.29; Germany 1.24; Hungary 1.11; Republic
of Ireland 0.97; Spain 0.78; Netherlands 0.70; Scotland 0.54; England
and Wales 0.41; Taiwan 0.37; Singapore 0.21; Mauritius 0.19; Hong Kong
0.14; South Korea 0.12; Japan 0.05.

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

I've seen this BS before. Gun related deaths may be less, but murder
rates are much higher in many of the counrties listed. Much higher in
Europe.

Where do you get this nonsense, Joe? Do you just make it up, or are
you unable to do simple research? Or do you just knowingly lie and
figure no one will notice?

While its true that there are a number of countries with a higher
murder rate than the US, they are almost entirely in the former USSR,
or in Latin America or Africa.

All of Western Europe, and most of the Eastern Europe outside of the
USSR has murder rates much lower than the US. In fact, its hard to
find a country in Western Europe with a murder rate higher than the
safest state in the US.

Its hard to get consistent stats since they all use different
reporting methods and different years, but the all paint essentially
the same picture.

Here's a link that you listed:
http://www.haciendapub.com/stolinsky.html

A simplified list:
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/y/homicide.htm#murd

And yet another:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita