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Bill wrote:
Not blaming the gun any more than the automobile. I'm advocating what
the majority of Americans want... a safer enviroment.

Yes but it is not a safer environment only the illusion of one at the
cost of our personal freedoms.

Sounds like you're not a big fan of Bush then, since the war in Iraq
was supposed to make us feel safer, even though it's having the
opposite effect.

Limit easy access to guns... how many fewer deaths will that get us? A
lower number than died in 9/11?

Hate to tell you, but he probably had mental problems. Are you
advocating locking those people up before they do anything?

No but it is illegal for people with a mental illness to purchase a
gun. He was just never diagnosed. I haven't seen anything that says

Correct. So, in order to help solve this obvious problem, make gun
ownership a priviledge that has to be earned not a claimed right that
doesn't actually exist.

Tell me why?? That's not what you do when you register your gun or you
need to supply ID and wait a couple of weeks while the authorities
verify you are who you say you are and that you are a stable person.

I am not saying that there should be no check but advocating banning
the sale/ownership of a gun is a whole other story plus the check is
done in about five minutes. The justification fro the wait is so you
don't legally buy it then run out and kill someone in a crime of
passion. Crimes of passion done with firearms has not gone down since
this was put into place. As I said before kitchen knives, pillows,
rope, a car all dangerous.

Never advocated nor do I advocate banning gun ownership. That's just a
red herring to obfuscate the effort to regulate gun ownership.

Five minutes is not enough time to do a proper check, at least not
yet. When we get to that point, fine. Until then, we need to give law
enforcement time to do a proper check and we need to let them keep the
records long enough to have a chance of following up.

Yes, for you. Rifles that are easy to modify to fully automatic are
easily available.

Yes and I can make a shotgun out of a peice f pipe with a nail in it.
My Dad was a cop for 30 years and he showed me a bunch of homemade
guns they confiscated. Modifying the gun to fully auto is illegal as
well. Making "more illegal" isn't going to do anything.

Nevertheless...

We need to do more in California. Talk to the NRA. They didn't want
anything. Ever hear of three strikes? Prison populations are on the
rise, not declining.

Yes the NRA has to act on the extreme opossite just get a middle
ground result. The NRA is the biggest advocate for using firearm

Oh come on. Heston went on a rant right after Columbine. Totally
wrong-headed, pig-headed view that undermines people's right in a
civil society.

education and safety training as gun control where all the liberals
say that learning isn't the important part we should just take them
away. The NRA sponsors more safety and education classes than anyone
else when it comes to firearms but nobody talks about that side do
they?

All the liberal?? Holy generalization batman...

Rant away... guns, guns, guns... sounds like a Monty Python script.

Oh so because you have no real logical argument you have to start
making personal shots against me. That's fine it doesn't bother me.

I've made them, you haven't. Still waiting...




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