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On Apr 9, 4:11�pm, Jack Redington wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 8 Apr 2007 09:27:31 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


You won't catch me out on some limb claiming that it's all the
fault of mankind, but just because you've got snow in Ohio 1/4 of the
way through April doesn't mean that there's no global warming.


Here's the thing about global warming.


There is no such thing as mean global temperature - any such term is
meaningless because of the temperature extremes from
climate-to-climate and natural cycles of heating and cooling. *Not to
mention night and day.


From what I've read, the method used is to take the data sets, add
them together then divide by the number of data sets used. *While that
is a valid way to gather an "average", it doesn't account for
variations in climate. *And as far as I know, and I could be wrong,
that is how the "average" is developed and that doesn't prove
anything.


The general average method does not account for climate. *If you take
a climate that has a night time temperature of 10 and daytime of 40
that averages to 25.


If the night time and day time temperatures are 25, the average is
still 25. It's totally meaningless because the climates are different.
You can only evaluate change in context of it's environment.


In my opinion, I think that the most cynical aspect of the whole
Church of Global Warming, Al Gore Synod is that they've take one
problem, pollution (which is real and much more of a threat in my
opinion) and cross-pollinated it to Global Warming.


I'm much more worrid about pollution than I am about Glocal Warming.
One is real, one is a myth.


It's caused by Haliburton. *Those secret mines on the Sun.


On the pollution issue I think we have alot of work to do as well. One
topic I would like to learn more about is the fertilizer concentrations
that are claimed to be building in the Gulf of Mex and other areas of
the worlds oceans. These should be easly measured concentrations that
appear to be lifeless. Why we looking into this and trying to curb the
discharges into rivers of these chemicals is a mystery to me.

On the radio in the past few weeks I ran across some folks talking about
* this subject and that they expected it to increase with the use of
biofuels. Apparently the effect of using biofuels have increased the
cost of corn products with Mexico's poor. Fears that increased
deforestation in South America and increased use of fertilizers may have
increasing effects on our Oceans as well.

Shrimpers in the Gulf are having to stay closer to shore to get their
catches. This is causing shrimpers who use to go far off shore to
compete more directly with those who stay in close. The guy on the radio
where I picked up this story reported.

Can't recall where I was when I heard this. But most likely it was NPR
since that is what I listen to in my car when not listening to music.

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Soaps. fertilizers, pesticides, septic tank runoff- all of those
factors affect a waterway. Hood Canal is a "dead end" arm of Puget
Sound, and where there were once thriving fisheries for salmon and a
wide array of shellfish the pickings have become pretty slim.
Biologists say there is a lack of oxygen in the water. The politically
correct thing to do is to blame it on recreational boaters, but the
unique aspect of Hood Canal is that it just might be the most *under*
utilized cruising ground in the area. Not that many facilities except
for
very small boats, and there's that pesky dead end. (OTOH, the scenery
is beautiful, with the Olympic Mts appearing to rise up almost
immediately beyond the shoreline).

Most of the stuff running into Hood Canal isn't originating aboard a
boat. As the number, size, and complexity of the former "beach cabins"
all along the canal continues to increase, so does the load on the
environment. Perhaps the most environmentally polluting thing the
average family does, aside from running internal combustion engines,
is to grow grass. Enormous amounts of
fertilizer get washed into the watershed by equally enormous amounts
of wasted water. The enriched runoff water fosters a lot of microbes
that die off and use oxygen when they decompose.