On 8 Apr 2007 21:34:29 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Apr 8, 12:25?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 8 Apr 2007 09:27:31 -0700, "Chuck Gould"

wrote:
You won't catch me out on some limb claiming that it's all the
fault of mankind, but just because you've got snow in Ohio 1/4 of the
way through April doesn't mean that there's no global warming.

Here's the thing about global warming.

There is no such thing as mean global temperature - any such term is
meaningless because of the temperature extremes from
climate-to-climate and natural cycles of heating and cooling. ot to
mention night and day.

From what I've read, the method used is to take the data sets, add
them together then divide by the number of data sets used. hile that
is a valid way to gather an "average", it doesn't account for
variations in climate.
nd as far as I know, and I could be wrong,
that is how the "average" is developed and that doesn't prove
anything.

The general average method does not account for climate. f you take
a climate that has a night time temperature of 10 and daytime of 40
that averages to 25.

If the night time and day time temperatures are 25, the average is
still 25. It's totally meaningless because the climates are different.
You can only evaluate change in context of it's environment.

In my opinion, I think that the most cynical aspect of the whole
Church of Global Warming, Al Gore Synod is that they've take one
problem, pollution (which is real and much more of a threat in my
opinion) and cross-pollinated it to Global Warming.

I'm much more worrid about pollution than I am about Glocal Warming.
One is real, one is a myth.

Then riddle me this, Shortwave;

What's happening to all the polar ice if there is no global warming?

I'm not sure that they are "melting" - it may be part of a long term
cycle which some scientists are now beginning to think happens on a
600 to 700 year cycle. And it's not like it hasn't happened before -
remember Greenland? You know - the Vikings who discovered China,
India and colonized Kansas? And it's Spring - ice melts in the
Spring.

Why are the inner and nearer outer planets warming up? Why is Pluto
(or whatever it's called now) brighter? Think it might have anything
to do with the sun?

I think you'd find plenty of company among people who aren't quite
ready to blame it all on man's activities; but there are darn few
people who insist it isn't happening at all.

I'm firmly in the camp of it may have some effect, but it is not a
total cause. I'm also noticing that this scientific "consensus" that
the members of the Church of Global Warming, Al Gore Synod claim to
enjoy is seemingly falling apart as more scientists are beginning to
jump off the wagon and listen to those who never climbed on.

And I still think that the whole pollution fight, one that needs to be
fought, has been co-opted by the global warming crowd.

I might also point out that these kinds of popular crisis predictions
have been around for a long time. Anybody remember Global Cooling
because of all the pollution would increase the albedo of the
atmosphere resulting in lower temperatures and a new Ice Age? Or the
population crisis ZPG maniacs who predicted, quite logically and with
mathematical certainty that we'd all be standing hip deep in people by
now with no room to move or breathe?

Apocalyptic visions of the future are as old as man. Global Warming
is just another version of the same old same old.