Capt. JG wrote:
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Capt. JG wrote:

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Capt. JG wrote:


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Capt. JG wrote:



Diseased? Who are you talking about? Sure seems like a bad attitude to
me. While we certainly have problems, I don't think we can right-off a
whole people or country.


Have you looked at the statistics for Haiti, Jon? They are
diseased...and yes, we can write off whole peoples...we are not the
saviors of the world...every time we try to be we end up at the low end
of the stick...yes, I do believe we should set specific limits as to
who cand come to this country..aand there should be rules regarding
immigration...number 1 rule you must speak English BEFORE you come
here 2you must have a valuable or needed skill or trade 3 you must
show that you can and will provide for anyone you bring in with you 4
you may not send money back to your parent country



So, just to be sure I read this right.... you're willing to write off a
whole people, a whole country because of a preventable disease.

Yep...if it's so treatable then they should be treated in their own
country, not ours...there are plenty of social agencies and churches that
do outreach in Haiti...let them get to it...


1) I don't believe we've ever had a law that said people had to speak
the language *before* they arrived.

No..but we should have...



2) What makes you certain that immigrants from poor countries don't have
a valuable or needed skill or trade? They might have..ort they may have
skills we don't need...if their

skills are not needed here then they can't come in...I am not agasint
people training here to gain skills to take back to thier own
countries...but they must leave when they have attained the skills...
Who determines this?
Dept of Immigration and Naturalization or whatever they're calling it
these days...



3) I believe that we already have this critieria in effect.
4) You can't send money back? Zero? Seems pretty harsh to me.

Too bad, so sad. If you want to be an American, then your money has to
work here, not somewhere else.


I'm truly shocked. You seemed like a fair-minded person. Now I'm not so
sure.

No, I'm saick and tired of it a;;...people copme here not because they
value our philosophy, or becasue they want to be in a free society, tehy
come here because they want what we have...they don't want what we
ARE....if they can prove they want what we ARE, then fine...everyone has
their limit...I've reached mine and I am not a gimpu crybaby liberal
ready to save the whole world...I can only save what is closest to me and
they are being threatened by the rest of the world..when that happens,
it's time to shut the gates.



No. You're a mean-spirited person if you write off an entire people.
You're also an isolationist, which is unworkable in todays world.



Not mean spirited and anyone who knows me personally will attest to that.
I am tired of being taken advantage of as a countyry. Let people walk all
over you long enough and you turn into a dorrmat. And if you read my
reply, youwould see that I am entirely for providing relief for them IN
THEIR OWN COUNTRIES...WHERE THEY BELONG! Why should AMericans have to go
to reat lengths of non-reproduction so that others can come here and reap
the benefits our ancestors laid down for us? If we need to keep the
popyulation down in this country so we can be more self-sustaining the
first place we should turn to is the open door. It should be shut. Like I
said, there are plenty of agencies and chartible organizations that do
finr jobs...back them...reinforce what they do...help them make that
country habitable again...but letting them all come here is not an answer
for anyone and if you don't see that then you're blind. Other countries
have closed their doors and made it possible for only a few to enter...do
you think if you pulled up stakes and decided all of a sudden to become an
Australian they would just let you in? Japan certainly won't...you're not
Japanese...Korea won't..you're not Korean...



How are *you* being taken advantage of by Haitians? Non-reproduction? Huh?


Because MY taxes that I pay go to their welfare if they stay instead of
to AMerican citizens who may truly need it....

non0reproduction...to not produce....so if we are so overcrowdsed that
we shouldn't be makin no more babies than why the heck are we letting
others in here???