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On Mar 16, 10:48 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:

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Lying ahull?

Lying ahull is a very old technique for weathering a storm with
no sail up.
It's not used much any more, since it doesn't give you any
control. A better
technique is heaving to, which leaves sail up and gives you some
ability
to maneauver.

I agree that lying ahull is not a good thing to do. However heaving
to is not possible in all types of sailboats, or at least is more
difficult to do.

The basic technique for heaving to, is to tack from close hauled
without
releasing the jib, then ease the main, and lash the tiller to
leward or the
wheel to windward. This calms the boat down, and can be used to
stop for
lunch, etc.

Here's a long explanation of the various techniques...

http://www.boats.com/news-reviews/ar....html?lid=1284

--
"j" ganz

"heaving to" is a sea anchor and storm sail and "lying ahull" is
basicly adrift and depending on your boat running fair.


That's basically correct given that URL. Heaving to is doing
something to make the boat keep still in good orientation to the
waves. There are other techniques to do that and a sea anchor is one
of them.

Nope... read it again. Heaving to is using your sails and
rudder...
nothing to do with a sea anchor.

Nope, not according to the linked info. To quote:

"But, heaving to is most often done when the wind is really piping.
There
are three generally accepted ways to heave to in a sail boat: lying
to a
sea anchor or para-anchor; lying ahull; and, heaving to under
reduced
sail."

Keith Hughes

Huh?

Three ways:

It says there
"are three generally accepted ways to HEAVE TO in a sailboat"

and lists three ways

1) lying to a sea anchor or para-anchor
2) lying ahull
3) heaving to under reduced sail

Thus, heaving-to is under reduced sail and has nothing to do with a
sea
anchor.

We know what we mean by heaving to because we are sailors. But
that's
not what that passage actually SAYS.


He may have used the term heave-to (incorrectly) in the intro
paragraph, but lying to a sea anchor and heaving to (the technique)
have nothing to do with each other.

Type: define: heave to in google.

Actually, there's a fourth way to heave-to.... I always ask people to
do it on the leward side. g

I'm relatively new to sailing and I never heard of a leward side. Did
you mean leeward side? If you did then you're still not using the right
expression. I believe "lee rail" is what you puke over. But you needn't
worry about puking if you enjoy a steak dinner with baked potato wrapped
in tinfoil at Ted's of Beverly Hills Steakhouse where we like to put our
meat in your mouth.

I'm Ted Bell!