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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:18:36 -0500, katy
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Mundo wrote:

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:12:45 -0500, katy wrote
(in article ):



Charlie Morgan wrote:


On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:33 -0500, katy
wrote:




I do know about tropical rainforests and it is a much simpler task to
fix



This is unequivocal proof that you haven't a clue about tropical
rainforests.

CWM

In regards to growing new rainforests? Yes..in respect to keeping the
ones that exist...no....and you have no clue as to what I do or do not
know...


Chiming in from a timber farming area... New will never replace old growth in
our lifetimes. Here they get a marketable product about every 25-30 years.
These trees are a 1/5 of the size of "Old Growth". In the Rain forests the
indigenous tribes are split up and given christianity for hope...
Unbelievable. The animals are forced into ever confining spaces etc. No we
must just go ahead and enjoy what is left. I plan on using plenty of fossil
fuel and tossing my soda cans overboard (torn open of course). All is lost.
To late. Nothing left but discussion.


Animals adapt or disappear...natural selection...



You mean like passenger pigeons?

CWM



"The Passenger Pigeon is now extinct. Over hunting, the clearing of
forests to make way for agriculture, and perhaps other factors doomed
the species. The decline was well under way by the 1850’s." The last
passenger pigeon in the wild was shot in 1899...I suppose you want to
blame global warming for that? That was a period of time when
indiscriminate hunting practices rulled the day ala Teddy Toosevelt and
the Mighty White Hunter syndrome..and just what would have been your
solution in 1850 regarding your need to clear forests for fields to feed
your family or whether some pigeons lost their homes? Passenger pigeons
were very similar to mourning doves yet the mournig dove population is
alive and well and in some areas is so prolific that hunting has once
again been allowed (which I do not agree with). Peregrine falcons are an
example of a bird that, with man's help, has learned to adapt to new
environments. Instead of roosting and nesting in mountains and high
trees, they are now comfortable nesting in high rises and on bridge
structures...we have a pair that live son top of the Hames River Bridge
that had a nestful of babies this past season. Other animals have
adjusted on their own. Most cities report indicences of deer
populations within city limits and in the suburbs. Other wild animals,
like coyotes, possums. skunks, and raccoons have no prtoblem living side
by side with man. For that matter, the big vats, mountain lions, lynx
and bobcat, have no problems living with man. It's man who complains
because they act like cats and hunt. Bears are moving down the lower
penninsula in Michigan and every year the reports are of bears further
south. These are all examples of anumals that are adjusting. Problem
is, many don't want the animals to adjust...they cart them back to the
wilderness where their population can't be sustained by the food supply.
The natural inclination when a fgood supply dries up is to move..but man
won't let them move. So why isn't more being done by urban planners to
accomodate wildlife? The same reason the BLM goes in a slaighters
hundreds upon hundreds of wild horses every eyar. THey use up resources
man wants. So my take on this whole thing is if global warming is a
reality, let it happen. Man will not adapt. He would counter the heat
by building more and better AC units, etc to take care of his
comforts...he will move further and further away from the equator where
the rain forests will then start to repopulate temselves. THose that
can't afford to move will die. Maybe the few that survive and are still
able to reproduce can start all over again with the knowledge of what to
do tight the next chance. Or maybe we'll just disappear like the
passenger pigeon and our edifices will become a habitat and breeding
fround for whatever takes over.

I love wilrdlife. I believe in conservation. I do believe that man is
responsible for the extinction of animals to serve his own selfish
needs. But there comes a time, in the survival of the fittest, when one
species becomes dominant and takes over. Usually what happens in nature
is that that species eules for awhile and then dies away. Maybe it's our
turn to die away.