Harry Krause wrote:
On 1/14/2007 8:12 AM, Jim wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 1/14/2007 7:10 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:47:01 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/13/2007 10:31 PM, JimH wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:rchqh.14082

I would guess that it is a lot greater number than that.
Overall, smoking does not cost the non smoking taxpayer anything.
Huh?

Studies show that cigarettes bring in a lot more money in taxes
than are paid out in health care costs. And smokers die a few
years earlier than non smokers, so there is less Social Security
and Medicare paid out. Very simple equation.

Please tell the insurance companies to reduce my health care
insurance premiums as smokers do not have any impact on their costs.

I am a taxpayer and the health care costs of smokers impact my
health care premiums.
Damned straight it does. For several years, I had direct access to
a huge database of insurance information, including comparative
statistics on smokers and non-smokers. Smokers without exception
had substantially more hits against the insurance for all sorts of
reasons.

What we are getting here is obfuscation and rationalization from
smokers .
Smoking in the home where children are present ought to be a
serious misdemeanor and if repeated, a felony.

Fortunately, almost all the good restaurants in these here parts
have banned smoking, and smoking is also banned in almost all
office buildings downtown. I hope it is next banned from the
sidewalks in front of buildings. Who the hell wants to smell the
stench created by a cigarette smoker? Blech.
In terms of dollars spent per incident, drunk driving causes more harm
to the American citizen than smoking.

In terms of health dollars, drinking alcohol causes more health
problems in terms of dollars spent than smoking.

In terms of lost productivity, drinking alcohol causes more loss of
dollars spent than smoking.

In terms of overall impact to society, drinking alcohol causes more
damage to individuals than smoking.

Now why aren't we taxing and banning sales of alcohol?
These read like cites from Cigar World Magazine.

In terms of which habit is more objectionable and invasive to non
participants, I invite tobacco and alcohol users to perform this
experiment. Lock yourself in your car with an hour's supply of your
favorite alcoholic beverage and an hours supply of your favorite
tobacco product. Roll up the windows and close the vents. Enjoy them
and report your findings.



Preferably in a garage while the engine is running and all garage doors
are closed.

Would you please show us how to do it.