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Let's review.
The statement was made that when learning to sail high performance
dinghies, occasional capsizing is part of the process. You "took issue"
with that, and listed a lot of dinghies that you'd sailed for years
without a single capsize as though holding yourself up as an example.
Now you claim that the dinghies you listed were not intended to
represent "high performance" classes.... which of course leaves the
question, WTF did you type out that list in the first place? Just
wasting bandwidth on complete irrelevancies?


Really just peferring to irritate bloviating fools like yourself. Without
Bubbles around this NG has become interminably boring. You aren't helping
much, but you are making an effort, if paltry.

BTW if you've never capsized in a particular boat, then the odds are
that the skill of capsize recovery is also lacking... which explains
why you think capsizing a Laser is guaranteed to put you at the back of
the pack.


The Laser isn't a good example, but perhaps it has more to do with the
ability to keep the boat upright by quick reactions and athletic ability.
I've capsized a Laser twice while racing--once in a drifter, having gotten
slap-happy and sloppy in the heat and sun and roll-tacking repeatedly just
for something to do. The other time was after I got cut off by another boat
with no rights at the mark. I chose to capsize rather than collide with
another competitor--my boat was brand new. In both cases I was back aboard
and sailing within 30 seconds. My reference to DNF was directed more toward
Lightnings and Thistles. They can be self-rescued, but you'll be trailing
the pack unless you were far ahead to begin with. A Thistle takes about 15
minutes to self-bail with two Elvstrom Supermax bailers. Until then you'll
be sailing an 800-to-1200 lb. Thistle.

And
I'll bet the Flying Scots I've sailed in heavy air will leave a 470 in
their
wake as well.


Excuse me while I go clean the coffee off my keyboard.


You've obviously never sailed a Flying Scot in heavy air. We were clocked
at 10kts.+ on plane by a Boston Whaler driver one 20kt. afternoon. I have
yet to see a 470 achieve that sort of speed, but then I have no time at all
racing them. I do have lots of time sailing them, especially on the wire as
crew, but we never came close to 10kts. boat speed.


You're a stitch, Max. Apparently clueless, but good for a million
laughs. Thanks!


You're most welcome. Sadly you aren't good for even a half-hearted chuckle.


-signed- Injun Ear (formerly known as Eagle Eye)
(who also has sailed rings around Flying Scots in a 470 in all kinds of
conditions)


Well, that's *slightly* funny, if inaccurate. If you'd actually sailed
rings around Flying Scots in "all kinds of conditions," the conditions where
you sail are, um, limited.

Max