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Capt. JG wrote:
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Capt. JG wrote:
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From your CFR that any Captain should have aboard his vessel


So, what's your problem? My boat is 30 feet bow to stern.


It's not about your boat, it's about a commerical boat entering
commerical shipping lanes and not contacting traffic. You stated the
clown had no ideal you were there, and he had to back down to prevent a
possiable collision. I never said you have to check in, but the tug
does have to check in. Had you checked into traffic and asked about any
concerned traffic then the whole situation could have been ignored.

Hey you can get ****ed off as you want to, I'm just trying to provide
information that will help the next time, or help some lurker here. I'm
a big fan of VTS and know how it can prevent trips anc close calls like
you described.


It must be
embarrasing for you when you realize that everyone can tell you don't
comprehend what you read.

No what is embarrasing is a licenced Captain getting in a bind in a
commerical traffic lane, and calling boat parts what ever he fancy's to
call them. Had you acted like a proffesional mariner and contacted VTS
then all would have been aware of your intentions, and you would not
have been suprised.

Thanks for the link by the way, but I already had it.

Well the CFR says any tug over 26 ft has to check in with
traffic...same at VTS.
It does not matter weather he is working or not. You seemed not to be
clear on this point.

Joe


Sorry if I appeared to be ****ed off... I thought you had misinterpreted
what I said.

So, what you're saying is that if the tug didn't contact Traffic, and I
had,
they would have known he was there and could advise either of us?

Yes. He may have contacted traffic hours earlier and stated he was
going to be working near the channel shifting barges ect, and traffic
would have made you aware. Also traffic has radar and cameras on the
shipping lanes now.

That
certainly doesn't make any sense. This was clearly the case of the tug
not
doing the right thing. Why would I contact Traffic about my intentions
since
I'm not on a tug?

So all ship and tugs know your intentions.

For example when outbound here heading to the gulf I tell traffic and
they teel all traffic im outbound staying on the edge of the channel
and my speed, they tell me about everyone I'm going to meet, who is
working the channel and where. Then when making key point in the lanes
I state it and ask for any concerned traffic in the area.



Also, it's not my job nor my responsibility to know the names of all the
possible boat parts of vessels upon which I don't operate.

Do you, or do you not have a towing endorsement?

And, thanks for the clarification about the tug being required to contact
Traffic whether or not he's working. I didn't realize that, so you got me
there.

Your welcome.


Thanks for the clarifications. My understanding is that for Traffic to
really know what's going on the tug would have had to tell them something
like "Something Vessel leaving berth whatever, proceeding blah, blah,"
rather than just telling them what they might do at some point.

I have an assistance towing endorsement. So, if you get stuck, give me a
call and I'll let Traffic know I'm on the way to Texas. :-)

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