"Joe" wrote in message
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A couple of things... 1) Tug wasn't "entering the channel." The side
channel
is about 200 feet deep. It's used for parking barges, tugs, misc.

So he never entered the channel you were transiting? and was never a
threat to you in the channel.

I mis-stated. He did enter the channel, and you're right he should have
contacted Traffic if working, but what about when he isn't working? He might
have been working. I don't know. So, I'll say he was, but since we were
listening and didn't hear it, he must not have contacted them.


No one would call Traffic unless there was dense fog.

Well thats bull****. Here in the Houston Ship channel all commerical
traffic has to check in with traffic. If you do not the USCG will have
a patrol boat stopping you ASAP, why would SF traffic be any different.
dept of homeland security rules you know....

Sailboats don't call traffic to transit the channel. Perhaps you're thinking
I meant the tug?

This was a situation
of a tug probably moving from one berth to another rather than engaging
in
operations.

If he enters or crosses the lanes he is required by law to let traffic
know.

See previous.


Did they provide you with any traffic information? I mean thats thier
job, and if they did not you could have the pee-on advising traffic
sent to the Captains mast for proper punishment.

Just wtf did they advise you of ?



So now you say no one was checking traffic...this is confusing Jon.

We were monitoring, but if you read the original post, you'd understand that
there was no time to call anyone. If there had been, I would have hailed the
tug.


I can't imagine the damage had he
hit us with one of those huge vertical bumpers.


Well.... if he had bumbers you might of bounced off him ;0)


Either that or we would have been caught between them. The distance
between
them is wider than my boat.

Sort of like this, but not quite...
http://www.oceanmarine.com/tug%20images/4739tg1.jpg or this

A push boat with old tires...Thats what you call huge? Thats a HOJ
Jon, any two bit 100 tonner could run a **** pile like that.

Huh? I posted a link to a tug that regularly *pushes*. It didn't have any
tires on it.

Look at the picture in the link you provided Jon, the only
bumpers/fenders are tires, if you are talking about the two vertical
beams that push on a barge then you are the one confused......thoses
are called push knee's not bumpers.

Fine, push knees. I'm not a tug driver, so I wouldn't know.


http://www.tugboat.org/

Well call them pushboats, all inland type work. The pilot/captain is
not "way up there", as you described.

I thought you crossed paths with a real mans barge and tug:
http://www.vesselrepair.com/orion_poseidon.jpg

You're not embelishing your account of the days journey are you?

I'm writing what happened. Sorry if that's confusing for you.

You should learn proper rules of harbor traffic, and proper names of
boat parts then you will be less confusing

You should learn to read. It will save us all a lot of time and trouble.


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