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Ellen MacArthur Ellen MacArthur is offline
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OzOne wrote in message
Tell me what's wrong with requiring identification to leave and return
to your country?


How about this?

"Amendment XIV to the U.S. Constitution
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens
of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge
the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty,
or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the
laws."

So somebody sails his boat from New York to the Bahamas. He gets into the Bahamas using his drivers license.
He sails from the Bahamas back to New York and he has to prove he's a citizen by showing a passport. Passports
aren't passed out for free. It takes time and money to get one. Does New York have the right to say somebody
who's a citizen there cannot come back to his home unless they can prove with a passport they live there? What
about a driver's license? What about a social security card. What about some other photo ID. Why an expensive
passport? Telling you you can't return home unless you have an expensive ID card is depriving you of your liberty......
So what's next. Can they decide to require a million dollars bond to show you're financially responsible for any
financial liabilities you might cause? Can they require a lie detector test to prove you aren't lying about something
like your not a terrorist? Can they ask you for your car insurance papers to make sure if you run over somebody
that you can pay damages? Where does it all end?
And you know once it gets started it ain't gonna end....


What peeves me is as an Australian citizen, an ally of the USA, My
details are sent to the US when I board my aircraft and a decision is
made while I'm airborne on whether I will be allowed into the US.
I'm then fingerprinted and made to declare where I can be contacted
during my stay.


That's OK. We have to protect the country from people who want to blow us up. So far, except for John McVeigh,
it's only foreigners who send terrorists over here. Your not a US citizen so you don't have any Constitutional rights
like us citizens have. If you don't like the rules for foreigners then stay home... But when Americans are given the
third degree just to go back home something's wrong.

Cheers,
Ellen