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I MIGHT have been to Butler sinking creek in 1983 but I just do not
remember the name of the area. It was a valley where all the streams
went underground in TN.
We were in Co this past year and was tempted to look into Marble Mt
cave but the reality is that I am too out of shape to go serious
caving.
My wife and I lived in Casper, WY in 1980-83 so I do know of the Pedro
Mt mummy, strange.... That area has lots of cave potential and the
Pedro Mts are just one small Mt range out of many in WY. We almost
bought some property on the south side of Casper Mt this past year but
my business is going poorly so we didnt........

Also some diamonds near that area, some kimberlite pipes on the southern
border.




Predicting the locations of cave passage................the best we
coudl do was to stare at the cave map and try to look for patterns in
the fractal chaos. The best prediction was by dreaming. Once Frank H
dreamed of a room deep in South Climax cave and when we were there next
we actually found it down what we thought was a deadend passage. While
mapping the "Dream Room" we kept Frank awake (it was his habit to fall
asleep while mapping) for fear he would dream it out of existence while
we were in it.

Map the limestone layer against the surface gradient. Figure out where the
steep gulleys cut into the limestone layer. An additional indicator is the
emergence of streams. Works pretty well on mesa like features and canyon
walls. You might be interested in the Lost Creek Cave here. It is the
longest of its type in the world. I went into it in winter, the floor was
smooth ice. I don't think it is difficult.

http://www.alpinekarst.org/contents.html


Have you ever run into dead air in any caves? Ever do any dynamiting? Any
photos?


You've inspired me, I am going home to listen to Rick Wakeman's
"Journey to the Center of the Earth"


I had that album too.



How much of your business is through one time contracts?