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Richard Ferguson wrote:
The Dagger Caption was mostly a tandem boat, the only one that I have
ever seen was rigged as a tandem. I have seen one reference that
suggests that Old Town will start building Captions, but no firm info.

I have never seen or heard of a Whitesell canoe of any kind in the
Colorado area. I think that they may be a regional boat, probably could
find some east of the Mississippi.

As you say, the Sunburst II looks a lot like my Camper, although it is
narrower.

http://www.evergreencanoe.com/canoe_sunburst_ii.html

Evergreen canoe has a couple of US dealers on the East Coast, most of
their dealers are in Canada. Many of the small canoe manufacturers do
not have widespread distribution. I have never seen or heard of a
Sunburst or a canoe made by Evergreen in the Colorado area.

Anyway, I think that the boats that you are recommending are not likely
to be available in the Rocky Mountain area, used or new. I have seen
various Dagger canoes in Colorado, so any model of Dagger might be
available on the used market. Similarly, Old Town, Bell, Mohawk, and
Esquif are sold or have been sold in Colorado. The new whitewater boats
that I have seen in Colorado are mostly Esquif, due to the one Esquif
dealer. I think that I know one guy who has a radical looking Millbrook
boat, forget which model, but I think that he drove to New Hampshire and
picked it up.

I take it that you are closer to the East Coast than the Mississippi.

Richard

Mothra wrote:
OutrageX is a great boat, not my first choice for camping but you
couldn't go wrong with the boat overall. The Caption used to be a
Dagger design; wasn't it a tandem boat? I can see it's predecessor,
the Caper, being used solo tripping but I really don't think the
Caption performed all that well solo.

The Sunburst II that I recommended is sort of like your Camper in that
it has a pointy snout and tail but it has high gunwhales and it an old
style whitewater boat. If you get it, you can sell your Camper.

I've got to put a pitch in for an old style Whitesell Pyranha. It's
totally whitewater - actually it was based on the Sunburst but with a
rounded snout and tail and also a very interesting rounded midsection.
It would handle camping gear extremely well while being a total
whitewater boat.

Honestly, I'm not too keen on even using a 13 foot OutrageX as a
camping boat - maybe an overnighter, but it's really not going to
perform well with a load. The Whitesell Pyranha or the Sunburst II
would.

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