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Default Google proves MacGregor 26 is flimsy



Scotty wrote:

"JimC" wrote in message
et...

Two questions Sotty:

(1) What percentage of those comments relate to the


current Macs (the 26M)?


100%



Let me be a little more specific. - What percentage of them were
specifically referring to the Mac 26M.

(Don't forget that it's a sin to tell a lie Sotty.)



(2) How many of the quotes were from individuals who had


actually

sailed the Mac, and in particular, the 26M?



5


Do you have any evidence for this ridiculous statement Sotty? Like
comments about when and where they sail the 26M, under what
circumstances, what motor they use, what accessories they added, and
why they bought a Mac 26M (if they did), etc.



(Helpful hint: Since you won't have any substantive


answers, just avoid

answering the questions. - Post some more propaganda.)




You first.

Scotty



Actually, I posted quotes from owners of Mac 26M's who sailed the Mac
26M as their primary vessel. - You didn't. What's worse is that you
won't admit it.

Jim



y wrote:

What does this prove? Here's some more quotes about the
mac26Xm.

''John ''wrote....the Mac 26 is the flimsiest, ugliest


POS

I've ever seen.


''JrJelly'' wrote.....the hull oil cans like a cheap


screen

door. I'd be afraid to sail one of those anywhere but in


my

pool.

"BFCrede" wrote..... buy a MacGregor 26? Don't make me
laugh!

" tommyGun'' wrote....(Mac26) worse boat in history

''BlueWaterBoy'' wrote.... while looking at the Mac 26 ,


it

was all I could do to not heave on the dam thing .

''KeViN'' wrote..... don't waste your money on a


Magreger

26. It's not a sailboat and it's not a power boat. It's


just

plain awfull!






"JimC" wrote in message
. com...


Doug, read the damn note a little more carefully before

you pop off like


that. Those comments were quotes from owners of Mac 26Ms

expressing


their own opinions of their own boats, posted here by me

to give the OP


some idea of what other 26M owners thought about the


boat.

My own


opinions, posted over and over again, have been that the

Macs have good


and bad points and are not suited for everyone or for

every intended


use, but that there ought to be a little more balance in

some of the


discussions of the Mac. - What do you expect me to


do? -

Track down


those Mac owners and tell them that they don't know what

they are


talking about and that they ought to apologize and issue


a

retraction of


their comments? Apparently, the thought that some Mac

owners like their


boats and enjoy sailing them drives you up a wall.

Jim




DSK wrote:


JimC wrote:



The boat's best features: Sailing ability.She sails


as

well as any


boat costing double the price I have sailed on.


Glad you added the qualifier of boats that *you* have

sailed.


I don't mean this to be insulting, but it is a fact


that

the Mac26X and


successor the -M are slow, especially to windward.


There

are many boats


that are cheaper which will sail rings around it.

Of course, JimC won't admit that, and he doesn't have


to

because he


himself hasn't sailed any of them. I have.




The 26M is a practical fun boat that can be used for

serious sailing


without the major costs involved.


It is a practical fun boat that can have sails hoisted.




The boat's best features: She doesn't pound in 3 foot

rollers at


speeds of 14- 16 mph.


???



... She will sail well with just the main.


She won't sail "well" ever, unless you like going slow


&

steering poorly.



.... There is something to be said about going to

Catalina and


arriving 2 or 3 hours ahead of the fastest sail boats

out there.



???

"Which "fastest" sailboats are these? Considering that

there are boats


which break 20 knots regularly, making this claim shows

your limited


knowledge & experience (or mendacity, depending).






...It will heel quite easily to 15-20 degrees, but at

this point, it


starts to lift the water ballast tank out of the water

and so stiffens


up and does not heel much more.


Physics isn't your strong suit, is it Jim? "Lifting the

water ballast


tank" has nothing to do with the boats stability. The

water ballast


tank, when full, lowers the boat's senter of gravity.

Gravity doesn't know or care if the water ballst tank


is

"lifted above


the waterline."

Th "lifting above the waterline" effect of water


ballast

has been stated


often, since the beginning of water ballasted boats, by

a bunch of


ignorant blowhards. I guess you believed it.





I have read many things on the web against the

macgregor. Frankly i


don't know what the _____ they are talking about.


Yep




The boat's best features: Easy to sail and forgiving,

excellent


handling under power. Mast raising system is as

advertised and a


pleasure. While rigging is neither arduous or

difficult, it is time


consuming, but not an issue for me since I keep the

vessel in a slip.


The vessel is comfortable for our use, which tends to

two adults and


(occasionally) a grandson.


I am glad that you like your boat Jim, and have a great

time with her.


It shows that you have chosen well.

But your remarks about the boat's sailing performance

are just plain


wrong, but it doesn't matter if you yourself are


content

with the boat's


performance. But one might wonder why you feel the need

to either lie or


remain ignorant of what other boats are capable of.

We've had a number of friends with these boats, and


they

have all been


happy with them. However they also moved on (as we did

too, from a


trailerable). I wish you many happy days aboard your

vessel.


Fresh Breezes- Doug King