"thunder" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 17:10:47 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Isolation, insults, threats, and humiliation are "tantamount to
torture"? LOL.

Maybe not, but sodomy, rape, and murder are.

So Bush and Rumsfeld told the soldiers to sodomize, rape, and murder the
detainees? Interesting theory you have there...




Oh, and the incidents at Abu
Ghraib are starting to look like the tip of an iceberg.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...217973,00.html


The war on terrorism is an unconventional war being fought by *illegal*
combatants as defined by the Geneva Convention. If the terrorists are
illegal combatants, then they're not guaranteed the protection granted
to "legal" combatants by the Geneva Convention. Humiliation, insult,
threats, and isolation are not "torture" anyhow.

BS, the Geneva Convention doesn't define *illegal* combatants.

No, but it *does* define "lawful" combatants...and the detainees at
Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib don't meet the definition, thus making them
"unlawful" combatants. Read Article 4, Section 2:

"Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons
belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power
of the enemy:"

* * *

(2) Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps
including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to
the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory . . . provided
that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance
movements, fulfil the following conditions:

(a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
(b) that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;



Were they wearing fixed distinctive signs recognizable from a distance? Or
were they dressed in civilian garb while hiding among women and children and
taking pot shots at our troops?

Here's a very thorough analysis of the "unlawful combatant" issue as it
deals with our al Qaeda and Taliban detainees. Although written before the
Iraq war, it can very easily apply to the detainees we nabbed in Iraq.
Saddam and his generals (as well as Republican Guard soldiers) qualify for
POW status. The insurgents currently doing the fighting do not.