View Single Post
  #77   Report Post  
posted to alt.sailing.asa
otnmbrd otnmbrd is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 238
Default My new stand-on/give way list.

Jeff wrote in
:

otnmbrd wrote:
The rule is simply
saying keep those lights on until you stop.


Hmmm. Does drifting count as "making way through the water"?


That's a judgement call..... normally I'd say no, since not having them
on might give more information.

How
about dragging anchor?


Again, a judgement call....since you are now at anchor and showing anchor
lights not NUC...



For me the implication is in the order (you're right, not a word is
said) Look at the sequence... NUC is always first.


So? Something has to be first in a list. This is a list of vessels a
powerboat must stay clear of, not is said about what a RAM must stay
clear of.


It basically boils down to how you read/perceive/interpret.
To me the Rules are some basic guidelines that follow a common sense
progression, so I interpret Rule 18, as I do.



Truly, signal flags are not part of the test. I think there might be
some mention somewhere that a book exist that explains these things,
but it certainly would be part of the "closed book, 90% to pass" part
which specifically covers the rules and is in fact where the question
I posted came from.

\
I will have to look. However, whether you consciously see them or not,
these signals are used (some of them) daily by ships and others,
especially in coastal waters... "A","B","G","H","Q","S","D"(in fog),
"E","I" to name a few.



BG sore subject....off my soap box
BTW you will note that theses signals may be sent by ANY method of
signalling.


You mean like two vertical balls?


No I mean flag, flashing light (morse), whistle (morse), semaphor (G).






Either you missed it or you ignored it..... go to International
Code of Signals..... Single letter signals.... "D" Keep clear of
me; I am maneuvering with difficulty
So why not do that with your small boat RAM?
Not sure I can see a reason not to. After all, it's not saying I'm
"unable to maneuver", just having difficulty or restricted in
ability, to.
I'm not following your logic here - why wouldn't "delta" be just as
appropriate in a NUC-like situation as a RAM-like situation?


Because as you know, I say a NUC is unable to maneuver.


Yes, but that's begging the question. (I mean that in the true sense
of defining you terms so as to make an real discussion of the issue
irrelevant.)



Of course, I've never used flag signals except in very specific
situations (race signals, diver down, etc) so what do I know?


EG Shame on you..... course I doubt many in this group
have....knowingly.


Yes, there was a time when owning a complete set of signal flags was
actually on my list. But now they've fallen into that dark zone of
having no antique or nostalgia value, but not being really useful.
Kind of like an RDF, which I did own and use, but didn't keep.


You may have dumped the flags/morse too soon. Once again, you do use them
you just may not be conscious of it.

otn