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Ellen MacArthur Ellen MacArthur is offline
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"otnmbrd" wrote
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| sigh..... The nature of my work launching aircraft makes me RAM

NO it doesn't. The nature of your work alone does not. It's just part of what defines RAM
It must also include making you unable to keep out of the way of another vessel. Your just not RAM
if you're able to keep out of the way. Can you count to two?

| sigh, again........yes I AM RAM. The nature of my work says that if I
| continue doing that work I can not get out of the way of all those
| vessels listed after me in rule 18 or a powerdriven vessel, but we're not
| talking about those vessels. We are talking about a vessel which is
| NUC/can't maneuver......

But, it's also RAM/unable to maneuver. Your RAM is able to maneuver. Therefore it isn't RAM.

| which means we have two possibilities:
| A. Continue our status of RAM and work within our limited capabilities to
| avoid the NUC since he can't maneuver, or

No. You were never RAM since you are not unable to maneuver to keep out of the way. A real RAM
is just like a NUC in that it's unable to maneuver to keep out of the way of another vessel.

| B. Interrupt our operations and "OF COURSE" no longer be RAM and maneuver
| to avoid. Sorry, I forgot who I was dealing with and assumed you would
| know what would happen to the RAM status if I stopped operations (my
| work).

You weren't RAM to begin with...
Again, where you go wrong is saying the nature of your work makes you RAM. It doesn't. It's
the nature of your work combined with being unable to maneuver to keep out of the way of another
vessel that makes you RAM.
I think your being contrary now. You can't keep saying things that both Jeff and I have proved
aren't what the rules say. Well I take it back. You can keep saying it but as long as you do you won't
be helping your credibility.

Cheers,
Ellen