"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
reenews.net:


"otnmbrd" wrote
| G It doesn't have to be written....one guy can't maneuver, one guy
| has restricted maneuverability.

That's half of it. To be complete you have to also say *And both
are unable to keep out of the way of
another vessel.*

This point of the discussion centers on differentiating between NUC and
RAM and how they may react to avoid a collision.


| Again, I'm on a carrier, launching aircraft.
| In the distance I see a vessel that is indicating NUC and we are on a
| collision course. A bit of radio traffic confirms he has no
| engine....what do I do?
| Since it's the nature of my work that is making me RAM, I have to

That's where you go wrong. It takes MORE than the nature of your
work to make you RAM. You
also have to be "(1)restricted in her ability to maneuver as required
by these Rules *and* is therefore (2)unable to keep out of the way of
another vessel." Two things. There are two things written there.
There, I've said it again. Are you ever going to listen? Your calling
yourself RAM when you aren't RAM. Again RAM is not restricted in
ability to maneuver alone. It's restricted and unable. Two things!

sigh..... The nature of my work launching aircraft makes me RAM



| think.....can I slow up/speed up and continue my work and avoid him?
| No set and drift so that's out. Change course? Possibly, but not
| something that may be positive enough for safe clearance. Interrupt
| operations? Yup....gonna **** off a bunch of people, but.....

That proves it! Your not RAM. The carrier example you use here is
flawed. If the nature of her work made
her unable to keep out of the way of another vessel she would be RAM.
The nature of the work the carrier's doing doesn't make her unable to
keep out of the way of another vessel.

sigh, again........yes I AM RAM. The nature of my work says that if I
continue doing that work I can not get out of the way of all those
vessels listed after me in rule 18 or a powerdriven vessel, but we're not
talking about those vessels. We are talking about a vessel which is
NUC/can't maneuver...... which means we have two possibilities:
A. Continue our status of RAM and work within our limited capabilities to
avoid the NUC since he can't maneuver, or
B. Interrupt our operations and "OF COURSE" no longer be RAM and maneuver
to avoid. Sorry, I forgot who I was dealing with and assumed you would
know what would happen to the RAM status if I stopped operations (my
work).

otn