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Ellen MacArthur Ellen MacArthur is offline
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"otnmbrd" wrote
| G It doesn't have to be written....one guy can't maneuver, one guy has
| restricted maneuverability.

That's half of it. To be complete you have to also say *And both are unable to keep out of the way of
another vessel.*

| Again, I'm on a carrier, launching aircraft.
| In the distance I see a vessel that is indicating NUC and we are on a
| collision course. A bit of radio traffic confirms he has no
| engine....what do I do?
| Since it's the nature of my work that is making me RAM, I have to

That's where you go wrong. It takes MORE than the nature of your work to make you RAM. You
also have to be "(1)restricted in her ability to maneuver as required by these Rules *and* is therefore
(2)unable to keep out of the way of another vessel." Two things. There are two things written there.
There, I've said it again. Are you ever going to listen? Your calling yourself RAM when you aren't RAM.
Again RAM is not restricted in ability to maneuver alone. It's restricted and unable. Two things!


| think.....can I slow up/speed up and continue my work and avoid him? No
| set and drift so that's out. Change course? Possibly, but not something
| that may be positive enough for safe clearance. Interrupt operations?
| Yup....gonna **** off a bunch of people, but.....

That proves it! Your not RAM. The carrier example you use here is flawed. If the nature of her work made
her unable to keep out of the way of another vessel she would be RAM. The nature of the work the carrier's
doing doesn't make her unable to keep out of the way of another vessel.

| Take all the vessels regarded as RAM..... think of the possibilities.

First you gotta have it clear in your mind what vessel actually is RAM - not what vessel you *think* is RAM.
Once you start thinking that way the possibilities are more limited. A vessel is RAM by definition. The complete
definition! You still use an incomplete definition. You call a vessel RAM when it isn't RAM. Wake up!


Cheers,
Ellen