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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
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| You fail to note the potential difference between NUC and
| RAM.....probably because you don't understand the potential
| difference since you are just reading words..

I understand the difference. The rule tells me the difference.
Rule 3 tells me NUC is
unable to maneuver to comply with the Rules and unable to keep out of
the way of other vessels. The Rule tells me RAM has restricted ability
to maneuver to comply with the other Rules and is also unable to keep
out of the way of other vessels. Like I said before....

NUC = unable/unable
RAM + restricted/unable

So it makes it look like NUC is really more handicapped. But it's
looks only.


Incorrect..... NUC is unable to maneuver...."PERIOD"
RAM is ABLE to maneuver but in a highly restricted fashion
(generally).
For this reason you will see most pecking orders keep NUC above RAM.
For example: A ship, broken down with no possible way to use it's
engine.....this vessel is NUC. Approaching it is an aircraft carrier,
launching aircraft....this vessel is RAM.

Now, by your account, these two vessels are equal..... not so.
The broken down ship has no options, while the carrier does. The carrier
may be able to slow/speed-up or alter course slightly to avoid....it may
have to cease operations until clear of the NUC (remember, the carrier
CAN maneuver).

The remainder of what you say is more of your uninformed nonsense not
worth commenting on other than to restate your lack of understanding of
Rule 2 and the various possibilities of conditions and circumstances not
specifically written within the rules.


otn



What matters is the
unable part when it comes to keeping out of the way of other vessels.
Both NUC and RAM are unable to keep out of the way of another vessel.
So what if it's for different reasons!
Your trying to say RAM has to be kept out of the way of NUC . But
that's impossible because
RAM is unable to keep out of the way. Rule 3 says so.... You can't
have it both ways.
You talk about *potential difference*. Funny but Rule 3 doesn't
say a thing about it. You just can't go
around saying *I've tons of experience. I can see a potential
difference. I don't care what the Rule says. I know better than the
Rule. I can use my judgment and I can use Rule 2 to ignore all the
other Rules. Those dummies should have put something in there about
potential differences. They didn't but I'll just act like they did
because I have loads of experience. And because Rule 2 says I can.*
They just put Rule 2 in there to cover their butts. In case they
forget to put something in the other
Rules they have an out. Instead of saying they wrote crummy rules
they can say people didn't use good judgment in applying their crummy
Rules. Why not just have one Rule to cover it all? Duh!
So here it is. My new 06Colregs... Let's get all the countries
to sign on. Rule (1) Use good judgment!
Rule (2) the end

Cheers,
Ellen