"JimC" wrote
| You don't get it, do you? The Mac 26 in its various embodiments is one
| of the most popular sailboats of this size ever built, with over 30,000
| sold. How many of the 30,000 have had failures of the steering system
| Ellen? Or, for that matter, failures of the running rigging, standing
| rigging, or hull?

Oh my Gawd! It's worse than I thought. 30,000 sold = 30,000 people who don't
really care about their own safety..... (or who won't admit they made a big mistake ;-)

| You still haven't told us anything about the extent of this problem (if
| there was a problem), or about its criticality or seriousness (e.g.,
| whether or not a number of boats were disabled on the water). Also, if
| there were an ongoing problem, you apparently don't know what MacGregor
| did about it. (Neither do I, but I'm not the one bringing the
| accusations.) - As a suggestion, you could qualify your statements by
| admitting that you really don't know whether there were any serious
| problems, or whether they amounted to a general problem affecting a
| number of boats, but you did find some negative statements on the
| internet from people who you really don't know anything about, talking
| about situations that you also don't know much about, etc. Because
| that's about all you have come up with Ellen.

It's not up to me to prove anything to a disbeliever. You've made up your mind.
I think it's revealing how you go on and on about it. It's like your trying to justify it
in your own mind. Talk to any knowledgeable sailor and they'll tell you Magregor 26s
have a history of being flimsy. You don't like facts it's plain. Safety isn't high on
your list. That's plain too.....

| - - Not too bright? You mean the folks who call the MacGregor a
| dangerous pile of junk?

Now your putting words in my mouth. I never said they're a dangerous pile of junk. I just
said they're flimsy. They are flimsy and that's a well known fact.

| Sure are. But when thousands of Mac owners obviously like their boats,
| and when over 85% of 26M owners state that they would buy the boat
| again, it strongly suggests that most Mac owners are happy with their
| boats.

Good grief. People say they like things they really don't like for any number of
reasons. The main reason is they're too embarrassed to admit they made a bad choice.
Garage sales are full of bad choices. Who's honest enough to say *I didn't know
what I was doing. I bought that thing because I didn't know any better. It was a mistake*?
Maybe ten people in 30,000? What a silly way to try to prove something is quality built.


| Right. And similarly, if you only listen to the few who had major
| problems with their Macs, you also don't get the whole picture.

Anybody who hasn't had a problem with a MacGregor 26 just hasn't used it much...

| you post those kinds of accusations on the ng. I happen to be an
| attorney, and I would suggest that you might want to consult your own
| attorney before you accuse a company of gross negligence re a
| potentially hazardous condition such as this ("flimsy construction" that
| is putting people's lives at risk), if that's what you're actually saying.

Attorney? Well, that explains it. Your dumb as a box of rocks. Couldn't get a real
job, huh? I can say anything I want to say about any boat I want to say it about. Nobody
can censure my opinion. I say your biased. I say your stupid. I say you've a flimsy boat.
So sue me....

Cheers,
Ellen