"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:22:16 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:13:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

A holy war, but still a war was declared on the US many years ago .

I believe the holy war really started when we didn't go home after the
100 hour war in Kuwait like we said we would. THREE presidents had the
chance, none did.

I heard an interesting talk show last night, with Joseph Wilson (the
ambassador) as the guest. His ideas will enrage the faithful, but that's
to be expected. But, I was pleased to hear one of my own ideas (#1)
backed
up by someone who had more information than I do.

1) Before the invasion, the region was as stable as anyone could have
possibly made it. We blew it.

2) Although our focus was the no-fly zone, there was virtually NO part
of
Iraq where ANY aircraft could've taken off without our knowing about it.

3) Saddam was, in fact, hiding something very important before we
invaded.
He was concealing how little he had, in terms of WMDs. Why did he do
this?
Two reasons: First, he had to keep Iran wondering, in case they decided
to
pull any stunts during what they perceived to be a time of Iraqi
weakness.
Second, to keep his own people wondering, because internal support was
slowly but surely unraveling.

4) "He didn't conform to U.N. blah blah....": Wilson's comment on this
was
twofold. It took us 50 years to win the Cold War. We were patient enough
to work for that long, with a threat that was real, and horrific. The
only
reason Bush pulled the trigger is that the plan was in the works long
before 9/11.


Interesting, but I noticed an apparent contradiction:

1) Before the invasion, the region was as stable as anyone could have
possibly made it. We blew it.

3) ..... Second, to keep his own people wondering, because internal
support
was
slowly but surely unraveling.

Eisboch


Quit being realistic!

Nobody really expected you to understand this, John. This is why you were
never recruited into the diplomatic service. Much too complex.