Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:18:54 -0500, gringo wrote:


Show me a 50' fence, I'll show you a 50' ladder. Mostly they clip a
hole in it, or dig a few inches beneath it. The fence is a
billion-dollar boondoggle to Bush's friends. Fining the employers who
hire illegals is the only thing that will work.



Chuckle..you think this is gonna be a simply 6 strand barbed wire fence
that is never checked?

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/homesec/RL33659.pdf

Note the extensive use of electronics, Preditor Drones and fast reaction
forces.

The current San Diego Fence has already had a strong effect as the
arrests dropped suddenly..as the illegals moved easterly into Aridzona
to go around the fence. So the California problem shifted into the next
state over.

Seems that fencing DOES work.


Gunner




BS. I lived for a time in SD, and I drive along the borderlands of
CA-AZ-NM several times per month. Illegals cross the mountains east of
the city without any problem (except lack of water). Even now, with all
the hoopla about the problem, even now, you can sit on the shoulder of
I-8 in a dozen places and watch them straggle through the mountain
passes. The new fence won't be installed through the mountains. And
just where are we going to get the money to pay for the expensive
electronics--not to mention the trained "rapid reaction forces?" From
the taxpayers, of course. Certainly not from the big corporations that
benefit from the lower wages.

The ground along the border has been seeded with electronic detection
devices for quite some time, with little effect. Oh, technology
works--but REpublicans beginning with REagan handicapped the Border
Patrol and all other enforcement efforts. Before Reagan, Border Patrol
agents all over the nation regularly raided those who employed illegal
aliens, and loaded the illegals onto buses headed for the border; before
Reagan, illegals skulked around in the shadows, or hid within the legal
Latino communities. Reagan opened his arms and our borders to them.
Nowadays, the Border Patrol are essentially mute witnesses to the flood
of humanity crossing the southern border.

During Bush Jr's terms, citizen groups have been our only border
defense. During Bush's terms, what American jobs aren't up for grabs to
the lowest bidder are being sent overseas (with the blessings of Bush
and the Conservative Congress). Sixty thousand American-owned factories
have relocated to China in the last five years. ****, even the coolie
wages are too steep for the likes of Walmart, which is in a fight with
China's government over their stated intention to raise the wages WM
must pay by a few cents per week per employee.

Empower the Border Patrol, not just along the borders but all over the
nation; authorize local law enforcement apprehension of illegals; and
fine the hell out of those who provide the illegals with a job.



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3



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