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Del Cecchi Del Cecchi is offline
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Default One for the not so swift among us-

Jeff Rigby wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Sean Corbett wrote:

You wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
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I guess the confusion comes from the fact that left-leaning persons
can't comprehend "initiative".

But the real question is what, if anything, did Gore actually do to
create the modern Internet? According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice
president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the
Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States
without the strong support given to it and related research areas by
the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as
Senator."


The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with
making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's
High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave
Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is
today."


Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University,
claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the
importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to
cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the
Internet?"

THAT'S initiative.


Sean will not respond to the specifics you've provided above. He can't.

Anybody can cut-and-paste quotes from a single website.


And that's all it took to prove you dead wrong.
Now, where IS that quote that you and Rush and Hannity hold so dear??

Who's quoted opinions above do you disagree with?
Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom?
Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University?
The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen?
Which ones and why?




None of the above. I was part of a company in the middle 80's writing among
other things a terminal program called Interlink for the Atari ST. That for
those of you new to computing, was based on a Motorola 68000 running at 8
KHz with 512k of memory and a Graphic user interface called GEM. The Atari
was a little faster than a Mac and had at the time Industry standard
hardware like Midi port, floppy drive compatible with the 3 1/2 drive in the
PC and a modified SCSI port.

The point of this was that the GEM interface and drawing utilities were in
ROM in the computer. A simple 8 byte call to the GEM library could call a
drawing routine that would create a circle and fill it with a pattern.
Same with a line, rectangle, triangle and text. These were the tools to
build an interface for a terminal program that would resemble what we have
with our current generation of Web Browsers but able to work with 2400 baud
modems. We created a prototype but didn't think it would sell as the Atari
had too small a market share for BBS and national services like CompuServe
to support it.

For the user interface we see today to evolve we needed more market share,
Chicken and egg! Information available nationally created demand that
created the need for a easier information tool (web browsers) which created
more demand.

Darpa net being integrated into a net that linked universities step 1 Gore
has a part in that as did many other Senators. Since Democrats controlled
the Senate at that time...they get the credit. University students creating
PD programs to easily access the info, grants to the most prolific, again
Democrats controlled the Senate. These early machines were generally Unix
machines not PCs.

The internet as we have it today was market driven. Gore can not take
credit for that.

The Internet could have been created 15 years earlier IF the PC had been
created with a 68000 and had a graphics user interface standard. The Mac,
Amiga and Atari while VASTLY superior (by 20 times) the PC of the 80's
couldn't get the market share the PC got because of the combination of the
market draw of the IBM name and the ignorance of the consumer in buying the
first , second and third generation PC (8086, 80286, 80386, 80486 The forth
generation PC with a Pentium 60 Mhz processor was the equal of a 16 Mhz
68000 computer. At the Release of the Pentium, Motorola has a 68030 at 30
Mhz that was 5 times faster than the Pentium,


sorry jeff. the internet and its creation had nothing to do with ataris
or PCs.

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Del Cecchi
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