Wait a sec... it's a sunfish. You could easily move the rudder and the sail
to get it moving.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Jeff" wrote
(lots of things that don't matter so I deleted them)

THIS is what matters and this is what happened in my question.
Your just being thick on purpose. Your wrong and I can prove it with
an example.
In irons and the wind is pushing you backwards at 2 miles an hour over
the bottom.
The current is going the same direction over the ground and at the same
speed. 2 mph!
Your going backwards over the ground at 4 mph. Not through the water.
The boat has NO freaking motion through the water and the rudder won't
work.
Duh! Forget about looking at the land. There doesn't have to be any land
in sight
and you're still dead in the water.
Enough!

Cheers,
Ellen