It FAILED can you understand that? A big failure since this
guy was so high up in the organization.


Joe wrote:
Failed in your fairly land dream, but it seems to be working in the
real world.

In what "fairy land dream world" did the Bush Administration
prevent an "attack killing 1000s" in LA?


... We now have an excellent understanding of Al- Queda and
have taken down most for the key planners of 9-11


Except for the ones we let go because President Bush wanted
to send those troops somewhere else.

Bottom line: did not prevent terrorist attacks
Has not captured Osama Bin Laden

All your excuses and fairy tales do not change the basic
facts, Joe.



Maybe you think failure to protect the US from terrorist
threats is OK?



Maybe not.


That's exactly what happened, ans you seem to be OK with
it... in fact you seem to want to invite more attacks just
so you can prove how tough you are.

Smart!



We agree on the moral issue, the only question is why you
want the US to become an evil dictatorial regime.


Who said I'd like that?


You agree that torture is evil and you want our gov't to
torture people. Most gov'ts in history that have openly
practiced torture are dictatorial.



I know, you the expert on preventing future attacks, but havent
provided one clue on how to do it, other than the "Evil Bush Ragime"
way.



Actually I have several times, you just don't seem to be
getting it.


Yeah I'm sure if the tower was taken down in LA, and 1000's died, you
would be all over Bush saying why diden't you do everything you could
to prevent it?

Personally, I think that's a fantasy.

Thats your problem...I think it's real and was prevented.


That doesn't make it real.


We know that President Bush and his cabinet put a very low
priority on terrorism and did almost nothing to stop the
Sept 11th attack. That is a real failure.


Clinton did it.


Oh yeah, everything bad is Clinton's fault. Funny thing,
it's still Clinton's fault (the economy, the terrorism, the
low esteem for the US in other countries) even after 6 years
of things getting worse.



Your problem (one of them, anyway) is that you cannot accept
responsibility for your own actions, and you apparently
cannot assign responsibility to others for theirs.


Responsibility for my own actions. Doug first I've been in the
military, second I've been a merchat Marine master for 10 yrs, and I
own my one business and have employees

Then why are you blaming everybody else for your problems?


Never taken a welfare buk in my life

Which means what, exactly? Lots of famous people like Rush
Limbaugh have been on welfare at one time in their lives.




I'm sure as long as a republican is in office people like you will run
around and screaming the sky is falling, ignoring all the good news,
like no attacks on the USA in 5 yrs.


There were no attacks on the US in the 5 years before,
either. If a Republican in charge means everything is going
OK then why are we discussing a ridiculous failure of a war
that was started on a premise of lies, and whether or not
torturing prisoners would make Americans safer from
terrorism? If Republican = success than we wouldn't have
these problems, unless you have a very odd definition of
success.

Frankly I don't care if the President (or other important
elected officials) are Republican or Democratic... I do care
if they're leading the country deeper into evil policies and
a cycle of lies & failure.

DSK