On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:12:20 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:28:56 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:20:09 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:07:42 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:27:37 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote:

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:22:16 -0400, JohnH wrote:

If the students can do nothing, and they pass the tests, then the tests may
be too easy, or the 'passing' standard is too low (most likely, due to
politics and unions, the latter).

Unions make a convenient whipping boy, but to my knowledge, they have
never written a test.

There is a lot of politics in education, however. Problem is: ****ed
off parents are also voters. The message needs to be that lenient
parenting is NOT helping the kid.....
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We agree on your last point!

Unions are composed of teachers and the union hierarchy. The unionized
teachers *do* write tests.

If we're speaking classroom tests, that is true.

If we're speaking about performance tests or state standard tests or
mastery tests, no.

Many teachers move to school administration jobs.

No they don't and if they do, it's very early in their careers.

It's a whole separate certification process to be an administrator
requiring almost PhD level requirements.

Many texts and tests are written by former educators.

Also not true. They may be "educators" in the sense that they have
credentials as educators, but many have never seen a classroom in
their lives.

Tom, I've several friends who've gone from teaching to working at various
support/administrative positions at both the county and state levels.

Here is a job announcement for the type position I'm referring to. Notice
that there are other qualifications than the 'post graduate (not PhD)
education requirements:

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Coordinator III, Standards of Learning and Remediation
Job Number 5598
Location Lacey Center
Job Type Central Administrator/Manager
Contract Length 260-Day Contract
Full or Part-time Full-time
Grade US-27
Closing Date Sep 06, 2006

Description and Qualifications
Middle School Instruction

Description:
Plans, manages, and coordinates program and personnel for Standards of
Learning and remediation in the office of Middle School Curriculum and
Instruction; and exercises leadership to design, implement, assess, and
revise a curriculum service or other educational program.

Qualifications:
Postgraduate Professional License with teaching endorsement(s) with
administration and supervision preK-12 endorsement preferred OR with
job-specific related credentials, plus 6 years' progressive experience in
teaching and/or administration and supervision OR related experience in
Standards of Learning and remediation. Knowledge of philosophy, goals,
procedures, organization, and the professional specialties of Standards of
Learning and remediation. Familiarity with applicable regulations,
legislation, and policies. Knowledge of public education organization and
administrative requirements in Standards of Learning and remediation.
Ability to manage and coordinate programs and to supervise and evaluate
personnel.
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John