Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:

But thanks to the excessive catches by commercial fisherman on
Lake Erie
walleye and yellow perch may also soon face the same fate,
this time not to
pollution, although we are seeing new water quality problems
on the Lake
that we did not see in past decades.

Excessive catches by commercial fishermen are hurting
sportfishing almost everywhere along the US east, west, and
gulf coasts, but I had no idea it was a problem in the inland
lakes, too.

A big part of the problem for us: the foreign fishing fleets
with their gargantuan ships that literally suck all the fish
out of certain sections of the ocean. Overfishing is a real
problem, and I have no idea what the answers might be.
Commercial fishing in the US waters of Lake Erie results in the
catch of 9.5 million pounds of yellow perch annually.
Commercial fishing for walleye in US waters is banned. There
were a series of indictments against commercial fishing
companies for their under reporting catches of yellow perch from
2001 to 2003 by over 100 million pounds.

Canada takes out 3.4 million pounds of yellow perch and 7
million pounds of walleye annually from Lake Erie.

Commercial fishing in Lake Erie was the result of the blue pike
becoming extinct.
I'm not sure I understand why non-farm grown fish, which, in
reality, belong to all of us and none of us, should be harvested
commercially.
Maine lobsters, for example, are mostly grown in holding pens
these days, although there are many lobstermen who still use
individual traps. But these rugged individuals are NOT hauling up
tons and tons of lobsters with every haul, and their catches are
closely regulated.
There was 400 million pounds of fish taken by commercial fishermen
out of the port of Reedville, Virginia, second highest of all
major US coastal ports:

http://www.st.nmfs.gov/pls/webpls/MF..._YEARP.RESULTS

New Bedford, Massachusetts ranks number one for total dollar value
of the catch:

http://www.st.nmfs.gov/pls/webpls/MF..._YEARD.RESULTS

An interesting site:

http://www.st.nmfs.gov/st1/commercial/

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But that's the whole point. Non-farmed fish is not a resource that
"belongs" to the commercial fishermen.
Who does it belong to, why does it belong to them and what is the
basis of their claim to ownership?

Your answer can open up a can of worms that will lay yourself open
to a charge of being a hypocrite, again.

I started earlier that I believe non-farmed marine resources belong
to everyone and to no one. I have always been opposed to large-scale
"harvesting" of resources such as these, "harvesting" of trees in the
national forests, sale of oil and reserves that are under public
lands, et cetera. I do believe there should be severe limits on the
the gross exploitation of non-farmed marine life.

Do you own your the land around your house?


What's your point here, Bert? My house does not sit on public land.

Ownership of the resource determines how the resource can be utilized?