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Default It's not fuel prices that's going to kill the boat market


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
It's insurance! Or lack thereof. In Florida, it is now impossible to
insure a boat over 30' long valued at more than $100,000 if the boat:

a) doesn't have a trailer

and/or

b) is more than 5 model years old (2001 and older are uninsurable if
they're
over 30 feet and valued at more than $100,000)


I just applied for quotes from NBOA, Boater's Choice, Progressive, and
2 or
three others. All said the same thing: no dice.

Progressive was willing to write my boat for $100,000 coverage (it's
valued
at $113k though) to the tune of $4500/year.

I'm with Boat/US, and insured for $113,000 for just under $3000/year.
I was
looking to save some money, and it's apparent that that isn't going to
happen.


Read this thread on thehulltruth.com to understand how bad it is in
Florida
now:

http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...114956&start=1


Guys cannot get financing on boats because they can't insure them.


Sorry to hear about your insurance difficulties. Nothing similar is
happening in this area of the country- so I'm willing to bet it has a
lot to do with the $$$$$$$$$ in losses the boat insurance companies
suffer whenever your several hurricanes per year blow through.
Sort of like trying to buy fire insurance on a house 50-feet from a
blast furnace.

Those rates sound astronomical to insure a $100k boat, but it makes
some sense to evaluate local risk rather than just "average" it out
against everybody in the country- whether they live in a hurricane zone
or not.

Yup. Sounds fair. Just like the rest of the country's tax dollars
shouldn't have to pay for security against terrorist attacks in cities
like NY, Seattle, LA, Chicago, etc.



There is no comparison between people choosing to live in hurricane alley
and folks living in large cities that terrorists chose to target.



Sure there is. I have a much lower chance of being the victim of a
terrorist attack than someone living in NY...and NY'ers have a lower
chance of getting hit by a Cat 3 or higher hurricane. And guess what?
The risks are directly related to where we each chose to live.




And folks living in Hawaii have a lower chance of seeing snow in January
than those living in Alaska. And guess what, the risks are directly related
to where we choose to live.

So what does snow have to do with insurance? Nothing, just like insurance
has nothing to do with taxes.

BTW: How many terrorist attacks were there in New York last year? How many
hurricanes were there in Florida last year? How about 2004? 2003? 2002?

Hmmmm, and I thought the odds were the same.







Nor should our tax dollars pay for the cleanup in New Orleans.




Don't complain about your high insurance costs or your being uninsurable.
And don't expect taxpayers to pay the bill so you can build a new house
after your is destroyed by a hurricane. *You* chose to purchase a house
in hurricane alley. You knew the risks and you are now paying the price.


I don't mind paying the price. It's not the cost that I'm complaining
about. It's the fact that there is no insurance company willing to write
a new policy for a boat over 30' long valued at more than
$100,000...unless that boat is a 2002 or newer.



Insurance companies are not in the business of losing money nor should they
be forced to. Don't like it? Move. Otherwise accept the consequences of
your choice to live in hurricane alley.