Larry ,,,, wow. You are really getting close to the edge.

The Middle East is a mess because: IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MESS, THE PEOPLE
WHO LIVE THERE HATE EACH OTHER, THEY WANT TO KILL THE GUY ACROSS THE STREET
AND CUT OFF HIS HEAD. NOTHING ANYBODY DOES IS GOING TO CHANGE THIS. ALL
WE, THE WEST, CAN DO IS KEEP THE NUTS AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.

If George Bush is a member of the "Illuminati" then the entrance exam must
have been waved. He was not at the top of his class at Yale. As for John
Kerry, he had worse grades than Bush. In fact, he couldn't get into Law
School until Cong. Father Drinin of Boston stepped in and helped.

The Vietnam war started in the 1940's. First against the French and then
the Japanese and then the French again and then US, THE USA.

The demonstators you talk about didn't show up until the late 60's .......
why? Because it wasn't until the sons of the "Illuminati" got blown up in
Nam that it mattered to them. You don't think they gave a crap about some
poor black or white kid.

Was R Nixon a member of the "Illuminati"? Nixon?

Before you jump to the conspiracy theories I recommend you read "1776" by
McCullough. The men and their wives who founded our county put it on the
line. Washington, Franklin, ... they could have just sat back and lived
rich lives. They were successfull me. Franklin was a publishing magnet by
the time of the Revolution.

Yet, they put it on the line. They stood up for freedom.

You are letting frustration get in the way of reason. Sure, the American
Government is full of corruption but it isn't being run by "Illuminati".


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(Lauri Tarkkonen) wrote in news:ebo8m0$pk0$1
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The more mess you are making in the middle east,

Let me correct a misconception, here. Americans aren't making a mess in
the Middle East. The American Government, which is controlled by the
Illuminati and Tel Aviv (international bankers and the elite), is making
a mess in the Middle East. The American military is simply the war
instrument populated by the propaganda machine.

Remember those huge demonstrations against the Vietnam War in the States?
Those represented the thoughts of the Americans....but not the
government.

That's out of control. I believe you Finns have more control. Don't you
have a vote of no confidence where you can throw out the trash from the
pile in the parlament and cause a new election? We can't, unfortunately.
We get to vote for the Illuminati's candidates of choice. They're ALL
members of secret societies...Freemasons, Skull and Bones at Yale
University, Bohemian Grove. The government is fully infiltrated, as
planned over 100 years ago, so the Illuminati can take over the world,
the "New World Order" you hear Bush talking about....

I doubt anyone can stop them, now. Illuminati bankers control everything
pulling the strings on all the puppets on stage. Check Google for the
details.

There's an excellent documentary film posted to alt.binaries.movies.divx
and possibly alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries in the past 12 days.
It's filename title is:
The Lightbringers - The Emissaries of Jahbulon (Juri Lina surveys the
history of freemasonry)
It follows their history with full documentation from France and England
and Germany right up to the present. It's an avi movie to watch on the
computer.

Burying our heads in the sand only makes it worse......

Millions will die over it....