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Bert Robbins

Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:27:09 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:58:47 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

wrote:
Don White wrote:

Why are you dissin' the French? They softened the Viet Cong
up for you
al through the 50's and you still couldn't win.
Courtesy of the Paris "peace" talks?

I'll diss the french on that one
What's absolutely amazing is that we didn't seem to learn much
from our
war against Vietnam and its various "insurgencies." I'm
hearing the same
sorts of really stupid talk from our Prez and company about
our war
against Iraq as I remember from the late 1960s and early
1970s, and
there is still a large percentage of American people who actually
believe the Chimp-in-Chief and his henchmen. When will they
ever learn?
I'm not sure you can directly analogize the Vietnam conflict
with the
Iraqi War, but I get your point.
No, the conflicts are not the same, but the callousness,
stupidity, and
b.s. coming from our national leaders is pretty much the same. I
watched
Rumsfeld testifying last week, no, telling one lie after another
last
week. It was an incredible performance.
Hell, all of the talk radio Fox news types are saying we are in
WW3 and
claiming that this is just like the rise of the Nazis in the late
'30s.

All you have to do is get past your hatred for the Bush
administration and "Big Oil" and things will become clear.
You've got it backwards. Any chance that if Bush had NOT invaded
Iraq, he would have more friends, or at least more people who would
patiently wait for him to vanish from public life? Or, do you think
a person's deeds are not connected with his reputation?
I thought it was the intent rather than the action that determines
the effectiveness of a person or a project?

And, if Pres. Bush had stayed out of Iraq the BP pipeline wouldn't
have rusted and corroded?

If Bush hadn't lied us into Iraq and remained there, there likely
would be more oil on the market, with disruptions of supply, at lower
prices, and Iran wouldn't be so aggressively pursuing our demise,
North Korea might be behaving, and Hezbollah wouldn't have invaded
Israel.

Many of the serious problems the world is facing right now can be
attributed to the ignorance, hubris, stupidity, laziness and utter
incompetence of Bush and his administration.

Glad you asked.

And Hurricane Katrina wouldn't have happened and all those charter boats
would be operating and the shrimp boats would be catching shrimp and
Safeway wouldn't be making a fortune on imported shrimp and we'd all be
happy ever after, Amen.
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John

Silly boy. I was discussing acts and reactions for which Bush can be
held strictly accountable. While Bush is responsible for pooching the
federal planning and reaction to Katrina, he didn't cause the storm.
Apples and oranges.

Of course Harry is going to attempt to limit the debate to what thinks
he can win.