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DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Nice day sailors, both to nimble, to small to cruise in comfort.


I didn't think the 121 was too small. The layout was better
for 2 couples weekending than 1 couple for long term
cruising, but it would be hard to find a boat in that size
range with comparable room & speed.

Could you explain how a boat is too nimble?


Quirkey, jittery, both designed more for light winds than heavy winds.
Keep in mind I'm not use to a boat leaning over more than a 1/4 inch at
most when I step aboard. I like a good solid feel, a boat that minds
more than it need tending to. If you want to round bouys in a lake, or
enjoy light chop on the bay putzing around then they are good boats. I
would not even class them as coastal cruisers, and IMO a solid boat
that digs in deep makes a major difference in fighting and winning in
storms.

.... dont like sail drive units


I'm not crazy about them either, but they do have some
advantages.


What besides no stuffing box?



.... Not as bad on the 36.7. That kinda money I'd pass in a heart beat.


Well, it's not xpensive for what it is.

Wish I delivered that Sabre, that was a quality day sailor.


Sabres are pretty nice boats... classy.

For that kinda money and that use of a boat I'd go with the P40.


Didn't like the Pearson 40 myself, and it's not as roomy as
the C&C 121 and nowhere near as fast. The big flush deck is
nice.


Flush deck and large overhead, leading to more storage, also has a keel
board.

One thing I did not like about the C&C 121 was the propane
storage well, makes no sense to me to put it inboard and
away from any bulkheads. I also didn't like the aft cockpit
lockers with no bulkheading, relatively large flimsy lids...
open to the sea basically.


I did not have the time or want to go over them with a fine tooth
comb. I just delivered them with out scratching them or running
aground. That was enough for me.


IMHO most of the First series (not the new 36.7) have too
small a cockpit, but they are pretty good sailers.



Yeah, big day sailors, small cruisers. Hate to get in a real storm at
sea on either one.


Depends on the equipment & crew more than the boat IMHO.

I'd take the 121 over the 36.7. better looking boat, better quality
IMO.


It's a much bigger boat. I'd agree it's better looking
although I don't think the Benny 36.7 is bad looking... it's
a Farr design after all... never heard of any of them coming
apart either. FWIW C&C's do seem better built overall than
most mass-production boats.


yeah and they fixed the C&C smile problems.

Joe



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