Capt. Rob wrote:
Here in Texas we do not go thru extra efforts because of the actions of

thiefs, we do not change the way we live to cater to people that may be

killed stealing.


That may be the dumbest comment of the week if we ignore all of Dave's
and Maxi's posts. So you're saying that you WON'T adapt to protect
yourself and others.

Oh yes we adapt, we have laws that require locked gates around swimming
pools to protect children, we have laws that require loaded guns to be
kept away from children. We have lifejacket laws, ect.ect.ect.


I think I'll be fine with the extra 20 seconds it takes to lock the
boat and I don't feel I'm "changing the way I live" by doing it.

"It is, but no club is 100% safe and when those teens were killed we
all
started locking up the boats. Note also that there are no oars in
place, so it can't be rowed. And the sparkplug wires are off. Those
kids died because a dinghy was sitting there all set to go. "

So you remove your oars, spark plug wires, and lock your dink up ion 20
seconds.
And you said "WE ALL" as in you all changed your lifes and actions due
to.


Tragic that these retards drowned yes, but 9 people drown every day
in
the USA and 99.999 percent are not stealing boats.


Smart people have been known to do dumb things, especially when they're
kids. You know nothing about them.

Seems in NYC they want to throw the book at the Marina, boat owner,
911
system, ect.ect.ect...

That's not what we're discussing. It goes without saying that American
as a whole is drowning in lawsuits.


Here most teens understand they have a good chance of getting killed

stealing.

Here too, but then it doesn't appear that these 4 teens stole anything.

Now I would never want to have to kill anyone over stealing, but I
do
know it is the thief
who will make the decision for the use of deadly force, not me.


Tough words, but I have no use for them.

Well I figure if a bad guy points a gun at you or a knife and tells you
to give him your wallet. You draw, shoot, and kill the bad guy. So what
if you had $6.00 in your wallet, credit cards, ID, and some family
pictures, plus a shopping list for groceries needed for dinner that
night. Did you just kill a person over the contents of your wallet,
totalling no more than a few dollars? Many people would argue that is
exactly what you have done. That would be wrong, however. You defended
your life from a bad guy who threatened you with harm. At the point and
time your well being is put in danger, the fact that the bad guy wants
your wallet is no longer of consequence. The confrontation is now one
of life and death, not for the contents of your wallet. The issue of
the wallet is only salient in that it is what attracted the bad guy to
you.

I realize a lot of people like you Robert would gladly turn over their
wallet and chalk up the incident to experience, file a police report,
and comfort themselves with the notion that they could not use violence
to protect something like their wallet. This sort of reasoning is based
on the concept that the bad guy is essentially negotiating with you for
your wallet. "Your wallet or your life" type of negotiations. The
obvious choice is to give the guy your wallet, only why would you
believe you will still get to keep your life? If the guy is breaking
the law by robbing you and threatening your life, then why would you
believe he is negotiating in honest good faith and will simply leave
after getting what he wants? Giving him the wallet does not assure you
that the bad guy will leave without harming you, your wife or kids,
infact most murders happen during robberys.



You all pay for the stupity of others.

You might be nutty enough to think that your inbred zones are not a
problem. Smart folks know better.

Just
look what the 4 kids cost your city.

Right, so I still shouldn't lock up the dink, right?

I do not lock mine up at the marina.

From Hillary trying to introduce a
bill to spend 50 million dollars, to you double chaining your dink.
It's a sad state of affairs when you are governed and controlled by the

actions of the worst in your city.

I'm not aware of ANY state where it's any different. Higher population
density lead to more problems.

excuses, excuses, excuses....typical NYer fashon.


Face it Rob, the kids left a party, stole a boat, and drowned. To
bad.... so sad.


Doesn't appear that stole the dink, but I agree it's sad and useless.


Worry about keeping a lifejacket on your own kid, teach him about
hypothermia and how fast he can die in icy water, and teach him not to
steal.

And this means what exactly? Ignore the rest of the world? Sorry, we're
a bit more socially responsible than you. I can sense your bitterness,
but it sure only helps you...and not even.

I'm not bitter, I might be if I felt forced to remove the spark plug
wires and chain my dink up.

If the parents of the kids who died did the same then we would
not be discussing thier deaths.

Oh really? You mean kids taught not to steal and wear lifejackets never
steal and always wear them?
Dude, you really sound like a dumbf*ck.

I think a dumb**** would pull spark plug wires ever time he leaves his
dink un-attended.


You should have a chat with
Dave. I think he's more your speed.
Post away...you too maye have the last word on this. I'm out of it now.
That's because I'm truly better than you are.

You are a slave to thiefs.

What if they cut your chain and row out, a sharp knife will go thru
that blow up padeye with ease. Maybe you should deflate it, and lock it
in your Kia to be real safe. Infact I think you should sell it, no
sence in murdering more kids just because you want to enjoy the water.
Just how selfish are you Robert?

All you dirty ******* on City island should give up on boating to save
the children. I suggest you pin a blue ribbon on your T shirt and start
another crusade.


Joe



RB
35s5
NY