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Default New Nikon 'Consumer' D-SLR

Harry Krause wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:17:59 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a
10.2mp sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a
couple of new features.
I've been thinking about getting something like a D50 or D70 even
though they violate my "no pricey cameras on boats" rule. Any ideas
on how they compare, or whether or not this new D70-S model is worth
waiting for?

Wayne,

All I have to say is DON'T DO IT. JUST SAY NO!

I purchased a Canon Sure Shot for my son and daughter away at
school, then I moved up to a D50 for my wife's birthday. Of
course, we started off slowly with the two standard lens combo
pack, a 18-55mm zoom and a 55-200mm zoom, consumer grade lens.
Then we needed to have the 18-200mm zoom, so we would have a one
lens that would work 90% of the time. Since this is on backorder
till hell freezes over, I ordered the 70-200mm F2.8 professional
lens for those time when I really needed a "fast" lens and the
50mm F1.8 for low light when I really didn't want to use a flash,
and don't get me started on the SB800 Speedlight, Tripod and
Monopod. Now, I am trying to justify a Nikon D200 for myself, so
my wife won't have to share her D50.

Whatever you do, don't get started, I am sure you are saying, I
know I can control myself, but that is what they all said. Trust
me on this, don't get started. The D50 and the D70's are nothing
more than "Gateway Cameras".

Do you have a QR for those 'pods?

I recommend the Manfrotto 3229 tilt head with QR.

If you really have all those lenses, you've got too much money to
blow, since they have excessive overlap. Why would you need a
55-200 zoom *and* a 70-200 zoom, to pick up an F stop or two?
Harry,
I really have purchased all those lens, I just don't currently own
all those lens. The difference between those lens is in the quality
and it is a drastic difference. I sold the original two combo lens
to my brother in law at the price I paid for them, which was lower
than the best price he could find.

18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor
55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor to my brother in law.

I ordered the 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED-IF AF-S VR DX Zoom-Nikkor
still waiting for it.

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php...productNr=2159


70-200mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor a really nice
professional quality lens when I wanted some really sharp fast lens
and didn't mind carrying a 3 lb lens.

Handholding a 200 mm
lens in low light?

If you really want to expand your horizons, consider the Tokina
12-24mm. It'll give you a real 18 mm wide angle.
I absolutely need a wide angle lens, and I will look at the the
Tokina, but I wanted to wait and see the quality of the 18-200 and
see if would do all I wanted with a wide angle lens.


The 18-200 will be a 27-300 on your camera, and it won't be the equal
of the Tokina in wide angle use. Plus, those wide range zooms weigh a
ton, compared to the true wide angles.

The lens I'd like to see for the 1.5 digitals is an F2.5 70 mm prime,
with really nice portrait bokeh. But no one makes one.

Harry,
Since I am so new to all of this, I have to ask the stupid questions
and I know I am going to hate to know the answer, because it is going
to cost me money, but when will I need the 12mm (really 18mm in
digital) that the 18mm (really 27mm in digital)won't suffice.

I just got the 50mm f1.8 prime and it is amazing at the pictures you
can take in low light. It is perfect for parties and traveling when
you don't want to lug the MONSTER lens or they don't allow flash photo.




This might explain it for you:

http://tinyurl.com/qda2z

No, you really don't need the Tokina. But it is a sweet WA lens.

http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/afl-00.html


Ken Rockwell agrees with your assessment of Tokina:

Tokina

This is the easy choice among third party lenses. It's the only one
that feels solid and professional.

It has the fastest focus, the fastest aperture and has the best
handling of all third party lenses.

The Tokina is the heaviest lens of the four. It has no weak points.

Get the Tokina if cost is an issue. If I didn't already have the Nikon
and didn't have $1,000

then I'd buy this Tokina. The only way you'll see any of the subtle
optical superiority of the Nikon

is if you're one of those people who worry more about snapping test
charts than making great images.

I prefer the Tokina because it's the only $500 lens that feels durable
and professional. It's also

faster in f/stop and focusing than any of the other third party lenses.
The Tokina is the heaviest and

feels great. You get your money's worth. It feels like a well made solid
lens and it is. It works well

and handles well, too


--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it!