Capt. Rob wrote:
only mentioned my friend who doesn't like Bennys to mock the
stupidity of saying "I have a friend who doesn't like cats."


You invented a friend. Not even a bad surveyor would make a sweeping
comment about Beneteau when they build such a range of boats at all
levels over so many years. Anyone could see that lie a mile away.

No, actually the friend is real, and he made that comment. He's
possibly the most respected surveyor in New England, so it would not
be right to divulge his identity over a comment that he made in
confidence. But I can believe he didn't mean it to apply to *all*
Benny's.

However, you claimed that your "imaginary friend" made such a blanket
comment about *all catamarans*, and you've done the same.

But again, only a jackass would be saying things like "my friend
doesn't like your boat."



You're trying to claim that I changed this from a "sailing
discussion"
to an attack on boating styles, but the record is very clear

Sorry, Jeff, but some people CAN READ. After we discussed sculling and
moving a boat with no air, you wrote this:

Some people can read, but obviously you're not part of that select group.


So you are admitting you have an under powered motor sailor?
That you motor when no wind is around...Tisk...tisk.....tisk..

Would I say such a thing?? I don't think so!


It was out of the blue and the trolling began in earnest. Busted AGAIN,
Jeff. Clearly you're very threatened.

Look again, jackass. It would appear that you're so paranoid you
think everyone is together in a grand conspiracy.




When you realized your blunder, you
started in with the personal attacks. You lost it on technical
grounds, then you lost it on personal grounds.

The 1st personal attack on my sailing is above

but not by me, numbnutz!

and I made no blunder as
I merely typed what is on the polars.

The blunder was not in the numbers, except in one case that was
obviously bogus (doing 6.4 knots at 38 true cannot yield a vmg of 5.8,
it has to be closer to 5.0). Your blunder was repeatedly talking
about various pinching angles without actually considering the optimal
point of max VMG. Any discussion of upwind performance has to begin
with that. Otherwise, its like comparing how slow cars can go in 4th
gear.

VMG and knots are listed
seperately, Jeff....of do you really even have the polars for your
boat?

Yes, I do have. But its becoming clear you have no idea how to use them.




You can rant and rave about how your boat "looks better to you"


Bwahahahahha! Now this one is pretty funny. The number one thing people
don't like about cats is how they look; comes up in any discussion
about them!

Didn't you just say that anyone can see through such a blanket claim?

I will admit that there are a lot of "condomarans" that are uglier
than a mud fence. I also think there are also a lot of ugly monos.
To me, your benny is just another Clorox Bottle, with pretentious
cheap styling. But it does seem to be an OK light air, flat water day
sailer.


most catamaran lovers think the PDQ 36 is one of the prettiest
cats


Hey, and amongst the Mole People, Danny Devito is a real hunk!

Is that why someone who races benny's thought yours had good performance?



but mine is faster on all points of sail, including upwind, in over
10
knots.

But on the LIS under 10 knots is common, so your boat is a dog here.

So? Do you have a point? I never once said that you or anyone else
should have a cat. You've made it abundantly clear that you don't
know enough about sailing to handle a cat, anyways.

You keep making the mistake of thinking that because picked a cat, I
think everyone should have one. Clearly you look at the world that
way, but the most people outgrow such immaturity at age 6 or 7.


It's also ugly, fat,

Omigod, are you claiming a catamaran has a large beam? Where did you
hear that?

requires TWO engines,

Most of my sistership use 9.9 hp outboards, some only have one. Twin
engines are a pain at tuneup time, but they come in real handy sometimes.

has no AC

and we all know without one sailing would be, what was your word? oh,
Horrific!

Sorry, I prefer a boat with good ventilation. I have 16 opening
hatches, 12 of them large. I don't need A/C, especially when
cruising, which is most of the Summer.

and is a total
dull ride by your own admission.

I never said such a thing. I just said it doesn't give you the same
feel as a boat the tips. You're the one who keeps claiming a boat has
to tip to be fun. Most newbies get over that in a few days.

I don't care if you sail it beneath
the planet of the apes, it's still a borrrriiing boat.

Its certainly clear that your lack of knowledge about sailing upwind
means that you think so. I can see you now, bringing it up to 30
true, and then claiming this is really boring.



As for my small fleet that we carry with us, you're just making it
abundantly clear to everyone that you know nothing of cruising.

There are quite a few cruising boats at City Island. Most don't need to
lug second sailboat to fill in for their dull cruisers.

That's because your definition of "cruising" is going over to Capri
and plugging in the A/C.


Can someone order a second pooch for Joe to screw??? BWAHAHAHAHHAHA!

Joe? What's Joe got to do with this? Is he part of your paranoid
delusion?