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Chuck Gould
 
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Default OT--For our Canadian friends. ( Illegal border crossings)


Harry Krause wrote:



I doubt the "fallout" makes NOYB uncomfortable. It doesn't make me
uncomfortable, either. It just makes you look unctuous.


I absolutely believe that the dedicated trolls in this NG are *not*
bothered by the fallout. (Maybe there's hope for the aspiring trolls,
but it's hard to say)
Some people could give a flying fig less about anything except their
own need to
lob crap into the NG and raise a middle finger in some sort of sick or
twisted "triumph" when they do.

Nothing stops or prevents a troll from screwing up the group except
conscience (missing in many cases), self control (also in short supply
in some cases), and maybe a little peer pressure. Consider me peer
pressure. Don't lilke it? Great. You're not supposed to like it. If it
doesn't bother you, (as you claim), then you will find no need to make
snide and catty personal remarks- as you have done several times so far
in this thread.

I think the following few paragraphs have a lot to say to certain
people he

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The Internet Troll Personality Disorder is characterized by
attention-seeking and disruptive behavior in anonymous, delocalized
places of socializing. It is indicated by the following traits:
1. A tendency to make provocative comments to invoke emotional
responses in others
2. A lack of connection to the community being trolled; i.e., will
leave if desired response is not invoked ("Do not feed the trolls!")
3. A dissatisfaction with one's life and a cynical attitude towards
things in general
4. A tendency to challenge the rules and authorities of a community
5. A preference to exhibit these behaviors only in places where one's
true identity is unknown
Disclaimer: It takes a qualified professional to diagnose anyone with a
personality disorder.
Source:
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/di...sification.htm
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So if we examine those in some detail:

The Internet Troll Personality Disorder is characterized by
attention-seeking and disruptive behavior in anonymous, delocalized
places of socializing. It is indicated by the following traits:
1. A tendency to make provocative comments to invoke emotional
responses in others

{You would certainly need to include posting political crap into a
newsgroup that isn't intended to be political in nature and where
participants have a reasonable expectation of different subject matter
as "provocative", wouldn't you? Then of course there are the personal
attacks from any side, "to invoke emotional responses in others."}


2. A lack of connection to the community being trolled; i.e., will
leave if desired response is not invoked ("Do not feed the trolls!")


{Wouldn't it seem obvious that those people who never (or seldom) post
anything in rec.boats that isn't a political troll exhibit a "lack of
connection to the community being trolled"?}

3. A dissatisfaction with one's life and a cynical attitude towards
things in general

{Yup, there you go. 90% of trolls are bitching about something. It's
either the GD liberals, or the GD president, or the GD poster with a
different political opinion, or the GD poster who dares to suggest it
would be better to remain on topic in the NG.}


4. A tendency to challenge the rules and authorities of a community

{While there are no authorities in rec.boats, there are some rules of
common courtesy and a reasonable expectation that with the tens of
thousands of sites available on the internet the guys who want to argue
politics all the time can more easily find a "GD the liberals" or a "GD
the president" site than boaters can find other boating sites. Comments
like, "You're absolutely out of line to suggest that anybody posting OT
topic here could be out of line, everybody should be able to post what
they want- unless what they want to post is a reminder to stay on
topic...." certainly challenges the unwritten "rules" of the
community.}

5. A preference to exhibit these behaviors only in places where one's
true identity is unknown

{Exhibit A: NOYB. Who the heck is NOYB? Is Bert Robbins really Bert's
name?
Yes, you're actually Harry Krause. Not everybody exhibits all 5
characteristics.Check out the posts from other trolls, and you will
notice that most of them do not use a complete or actual name.}

Disclaimer: It takes a qualified professional to diagnose anyone with a
personality disorder.
Source:
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/di...sification.htm

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Damn shame if a guy's life is so narrow that no matter what he has to
say the only place he can find to express himself is in a boating
newsgroup. That's probably not true in your case, but sometimes I have
my doubts about a few others.........

I think we should stick to boats, and I will continue offering comments
to those who abuse the NG to get their personal, political rocks off.
If you don't like it- great, and if it really "didn't bother you" you
wouldn't get all grammar school silly and insulting in response.