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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:24:06 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:05:33 GMT, Gene Kearns
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No, but I've seen water vapor that was compressed perform work.....
http://tinyurl.com/jtwls

Steam is in a gaseous state, only when it condenses does it form
visible water vapor.

Have you guys got a link or source to support this definition?

Gene, I've looked, but can't find one on-line that clearly defines the
definition that I can understand. My basic understanding is from a
discussion I had years ago with a scientist who corrected my
misunderstanding of this subject and it has stuck in my head. Many
people, including myself before that discussion, think of steam as being
the visible fog seen over a pot of boiling water or the exhaust from the
pistons of a steam powered locomotive. It's not steam. It's condensing
water vapor. Steam is regarded as a gas because it obeys general gas
laws whereas water vapor does not.

RCE

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The elements that make water can change state between gas and liquid. Can
they also change state to solid?
Just curious,
Jim


Ignore my smart-ass Manhattan on the rocks. (ice).

I assume you mean can hydrogen and/or oxygen freeze solid? I don't know
but have never heard of it.
There's liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen but I don't know if they can get
cold enough to become a solid.
I suppose if you could achieve absolute zero (zero, Kelvin) then they
would be a solid since at absolute zero there is theoretically no movement
of molecules.

RCE

www.eisboch.com


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