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Brian D
 
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Default Put a Coat of Epoxy over Fairing Compound on the Deck?

If you don't want to remove epoxy with sanding, then put some ScotchBrite
scrubby material on a buffer and buff the epoxy, then use the primers like
Jim recommended. This will work fine for the primer/epoxy bond, and the
paint will bond with the primer quite well. I recommend lightly using a
carbide scraper to take off point defects (bugs, dust) before using the
scotchbrite to prevent snagging problems. Just takes a sec.

Brian


wrote in message
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You are right. I forgot the fact that I need to sand the surface of
the coat of epoxy in order to allow the paint to bite into the epoxy
better. Your advice of painting the fairing compound with epoxy primer
sounds like a good idea. I will get a copy of the Interlux pamphlet on
boat finishing to learn the details to see how their product can
protect the fairing compound from absorbing water.

Thanks for explaining this to me.

Jay Chan


Jim Conlin wrote:
It won't be smooth enough to paint and without a sanding the adhesion of
paint is uncertain.
Either put on 2-3 coats and sand it or use an epoxy primer whoich goes on
much smoother.


wrote in message
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No, I will not sand the thin coat of unthickened epoxy (that was the
reason why I said that I need to use a roller instead of a brush to
make sure the surface will be flat and not need to be sanded). And I
will be doing this to avoid the fairing compound from absorbing water.
I will not do this to improve the impact resistance because I got a
reply saying that the fairing compound (micoballoons) should be tough
enough to withstand normal foot traffic. I guess this should be OK to
use unthickened epoxy as the last coat before I paint it over with
non-skid paint. Moreover, I will paint it over with non-skid paint
that doesn't need to be perfectly smooth and flat anyway, right?

Jay Chan


Jim Conlin wrote:
Don't use epoxy resin as a last prime. It will not impart much
impact
resistance and sanding it flat will probably go through here&there.
Instead, sand the deck as you will and use a primer like INterlux

404/414 or
Awlgrip 545. Then paint.
Interlux publishes a very useful pamphlet on boat finishing. Get it.


wrote in message
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Seem like I was worrying about the wrong thing. I was worrying
about
whether the light density fairing compound may not be able to

withstand
foot tranffic when I should have worried about the fairing compound

may
absorb and retain water. Thanks for the info.

This means I definitely should apply a coat of epoxy (not
thickened)
after I have sanded the fairing compound flat. Seem like I should
use
a roller instead of a brush to apply this coat of epoxy to avoid
brush
mark. OK, I know what to do now. Thanks.

Jay Chan


Brian D wrote:
The issue stated by System Three Epoxy when I called their tech

support
number is/was the ability of the (phenolic) microballoons or
(glass)
microspheres to absorb water and to hang onto it. It's better to

seal
it up
with a coat of epoxy after applying it, noting that at least one

person
here
DID skip the seal coat and had good success. I tend to run

conservative
and
follow instructions however.

Also note that if the fairing that you are doing is pretty fine,

like
filling something the size of 80-grit sandpaper grooves for
example,
that
you can use plastic minifibers from WEST (Ultralight Fairing

Compound)
and
it does NOT require a seal coat. And even then, you'd be best
off

only
using this stuff under a light-colored top coat since it does
expand

and
contract with temperature. Larger fills risk becoming visible as

time
passes by.

As far as durability of the microballoon-filled epoxy goes, don't

worry
about it. It's pretty tough stuff and is fine on a deck.

Microspheres
produce a finished product that's also tough, but maybe not
'quite'

as
tough
as what you get with microballoons. Keep in mind that I have not

tried
performing accurate hardness tests, but have used both products
many
times.
I was surprised at how tough the fairing compounds were for
normal

use.

Good luck,
Brian


wrote in message
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I would like to ask a similar question as another thread called

"Epoxy
over fairing compound?". But he was asking about putting a
layer

of
epoxy on the hull. I would like to ask whether I need to put a

coat
of
epoxy over the fairing compound (that is epoxy mixed with light
density
micoballoons) on a deck surface. I am asking this because I am
wondering whether the light density fairing compound can handle

normal
foot traffic. I would prefer not to do any extra work if this
is

not
necessary.

By the way, I intend to put a layer of non-skid paint over the

faired
surface. I mention this just in case this makes any
difference.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan