"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Not bad RB. Mrs Crantz's 2005 Sienna gets about 26 mpg under the same
conditions when we run it down to Santa Fe. Remember, that is not flat
terrain.



I'm hoping for 24-25 MPG, but the Seinna engine is a bit more thrifty,
though a lot less powerful.

RB
35s5
NY


The Sienna also turns much tighter, the turning radius is 3 feet less than
the KIA.

The engine is not a lot less powerful. To see the 30 hp difference in
engines you would have to run them near redline. At 5000 RPM and up the KIA
has more horsepower. So tell me you are going to be redlining a mini van
with automatic transmission.

The Sienna also has larger cargo volume and it weighs less. The KIA also
fails with regard to wind noise.

The cost of ownership of the Toyota is much less, the resale value is a big
factor.

How about a 20 seat lucheonette over in Canarsie?