"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Hey Piasano!!

What an asinine reply!

Go to Naples.

So how much BTU's to plant the dinosaurs and convert them to oil. How
much BTU's to tramp around the world trying to find oil. How many dry
holes. How many BTU's setting Rigs, pumping. transporting crews, Tankers
transporting crude thousands of miles over the worlds Oceans; traveling
one way with empty tanks, land transport to Refineries. Seaman's pay,
Roust-abouts pay, Shipping terminals cost and their payrolls. I don't
think a Farmer and tractor running a disc plow and a harvester will even
come close to that cost.

Obviously less than we get from the gasoline or we wouldn't be doing it. These
are private funds from hardheaded businessmen who wouldn't be wasting their
money. OTOH the gummymint is subsidizing Ethanol. So again, how much energy does
it take to get a gallon of Ethanol, including the energy to grow the corn, Vs
the energy that gallon produces in an engine designed for gasoline??

Plus; it is a renewable source!! Who and how are you going to use to
plant new Dino. and where are you going to get them;----

What else; Oh yeah, had to go back to see what else; Compress Ratio &
Nitric Acid! No one said to change engine Compression. That's all in
your mind, Vito. Just the same as your Nitric Acid. If we burn Alky or
Gasoline will there be a change in the Nitric emission?

Yes! Unleaded gas will burn and produce energy at well under 10:1 compression.
Back in 1970 EPA forced mfgr.s to lower compression ratios to those levels to
reduce the NOx emissions. OTOH cousin Enzo and others used compression ratios of
14:1 and more to very effectively burn Ethanol in their racing engines. It don't
burn worth a crap in todays US motors.

ETHANOL FOR E85 AND AMERICAN FUEL INDEPENDENCE

Fine with me if you make it burn efficiently enough to be economically viable.
My sympathy is with the farmers not big oil - except when my taxes are being
handed to some lunatics who want to spend more to produce less energy. But the
tree huggers will squall when they find out that the new emission levels are
rotting their cloths, burning eyes and killing fish, not to mention making even
worse holes in the ozone layer.