"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 May 2006 17:07:26 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


Which means nada in regards to this discussion. I needed laborers for a
clean up for a couple of hours. Only ones I can hire are day laborers
from in front of the lumber yard, or U-haul. Tried hiring though the
state, no one shows up. Maybe they claim the money and pay the taxes.
They are independent contractors, no witholding required. Same as hiring
a guy with a truck to haul trash away.

Uh, not the same, and, by the letter of the law, I doubt they would meet
the IRS' definition of "independent contractor". Hiring day laborers is
done under the table all the time, but it isn't strictly legit.

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...=99921,00.html

Actually you are right, and I know it. Independent contractor has to be an
arms length relationship. Can not really tell them how to do the job. But
is flaunted all the time. Same as Microsoft and their "Independent
Contractor" software guys who have worked for the company for years. But
when I need workers and the state EED can not supply them, I will find day
workers.