"RCE" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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I repeat. You cannot understand. But that's ok. It takes all kinds
to
make the world go around.
Subscribe to what you believe in .... if anything .... but please
don't
condemn those that chose otherwise for their own personal reasons. It
does not mean they are bad people.

RCE


I'm capable of understanding absolutely anything, with no exceptions. In
this case, I need an explanation that goes a little further than
something
resembling religious faith, but I haven't seen it yet. "You serve
because
it's your duty, no matter WHAT. Period. No questions." If that last
statement is wrong, please modify it.


You obviously have no idea of the thoughts which go through the mind of
those who just received their draft notice. To explain these thoughts
and
the rationale for serving, would simply provide you with more
opportunity
to denigrate those who served, for whatever reason.

Unless you've been there, and done that, you are *not* capable of
understanding. Furthermore, your snide comments and innuendoes prove you
have no desire to do so.
John H


Do you realize what you're saying here? That when you vote for a
president, you give him complete carte blanche to start a war for any
reason at all, and you'll go, no matter what the reason?


Nobody said that. You are over-simplifying again.

RCE


Well, I have no choice but to take stabs in the dark, since you & John are
unwilling to explore your own beliefs and explain them. But, I have an idea.
I'm wondering if the issue is something like religion. If you wait until a
kid is too old, it's very difficult to drag them to a house of worship
without a lot of resistance. You won't like this term, but religion really
is a form of conditioning. It has to begin at a very early age. The belief
in unquestioning duty may be similar. If you don't get that sermon early in
your life, you think differently and independently.

In WWII, my father flew a TBF Avenger (torpedo bomber) from aircraft
carriers in the Pacific, and has a couple of scars across his chest from
flying debris. He came pretty close to cashing it in, in other words. He
joined the Navy voluntarily a month after Pearl Harbor was attacked. When I
was 17, he commented that something smelled all wrong about the Vietnam war.
Too much double talk, too much bull****, and in spite of the Gulf of Tonkin
incident, which many veterans had doubts about even then, he felt there was
no clear motive for our presence in Vietnam. He suggested that I begin
reading everything I could get my hands on, in terms of news, and make my
own decision in a deeply informed way.

You should hear what he says now about Bush, Rumsfeld and the other things
who are sending our kids to die in Iraq. "These are boys in suits they're
not old enough to wear".