Vito wrote:
"Thom Stewart" wrote
Pipelines are problem but not as much a problem as Crude by Tankers, all
the way from the Middle East. The raw material for Ethanol can be
transported by open bed Trucks (Even Horse and wagon) to the
fermentation stations. They can be harvested with out high pressure
wells and transported without fear of explosion and a spill of a load of
Corn doesn't damage the environment like a tank truck rollover, or a
ship running aground or a pipe line braking. Trade off seems to favor
Ethanol. Don't you think?

Transport is only part of the picture. Growing and transporting enough corn to
make a gallon of ethanol, then actually making it, consumes mucho energy
itself - some claim it takes more energy to produce than we can get back out of
it. I don't know if that's true but I do know that a tractor plowing a field,
or even just disking and planting "no-till" corn uses more fuel than most folk
can imagine. The exact figures escape me but maybe one of y'all know. Also,
farming is about as dangerous as mining.


So, Mr. Doom and Gloom...there's no answer in fossil fuel...and
there's no answer in vegetable fuel. Are you going to be the first
to offer yourself up in sacrifice or do you just advocate sitting
around watching as humanity collapses? Nah...don't answer that. I
already know your answer.