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RCE wrote:

Yes, common sense. If hybrids and being politically correct
floats your boat, do so without preaching.
If an Escalade floats your boat, do so, responsibly. The same
applies for everything in between.

RCE

Yes exactly. Funny you should use the phrase "float your boat".
My boat wouldn't get very far from driveway without the help of our
Ford Explorer. The KIA Rio that I run to work and back everyday
sure don't cut it in the trailering department. I realize that
some people cannot afford two vehicles. If we had to give up one,
despite gas prices, despite the "environment", it would probably be
the Rio. The SUV is just too useful.

Fine, but you're not typical of the vast majority of truck owners.
You actually have a need for a towing vehicle.


It does not necessarily be needed for towing only....perhaps to get
onto and out of construction sites, perhaps to transport a good deal
of material or a high number of passengers. There are all sorts of
reasons one may need an SUV or pickup truck, just like you need
one....eh?

Regardless, can you show some proof to your statement that most folks
who own large vehicles do not need them?


Yes, I can show proof.


Then please do so.


You're not capable of understanding it. I don't waste my time that way.


More insults Doug. Why can't you just discuss this like an adult?

You said you could provide proof of your statement.....so please do.


Look around you, Jimmy. There is absolutely, positively no way in hell
that the enormous increase in truck ownership over the past 30 years is
due to actual need.

-Most don't even have a hitch on them. They tow nothing.

Proof?



-There've been surveys indicating that the average SUV owner carries 1-2
passengers most of the time, and never more than 4.

So? What is your point? How many do you carry in your pickup truck most
of the time? (I think you said you were divorced, so I would guess the
answer to be..........one.)



-We have not seen a 10-fold increase in the number of construction workers
and trades people. Furthermore, I have housing developments in progress
near me. I see more of the workers arriving in cars, not trucks. You don't
need a truck to haul 2 hammers, a tool belt, and a cordless drill. They're
smart enough to figure this out, and apparently, they see no need to drive
a pickup because someone else does. So much for "construction sites", as
you mentioned. Too bad soccer moms can't figure this out.


Ahh, so it is the *soccer mom's* that you have a problem with.

I thought most drive mini vans so as to lug around a bunch of kids, most of
which probably get better gas mileage than your pickup truck. Is that not a
good enough reason for you? Don't they have a right to buy whatever they
want to?



You keep coming back to people who actually need them. Do you know what
the typical female truck buyer gives as a reason?


No, nor do I know what the typical male truck buyer gives as a reason. Are
you saying that only men who buy trucks have a reason for doing so?

The bottom line is that it remains all about choice....and choice is good.

For you it also remains 'do as I say but not as I do' your rules apply to
everyone but you.